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RedRidingHood10 73F
851 posts
6/1/2009 6:30 pm
E-Mail...Private or Public? Voting Options Are Funny :)

How can an e-mail be a "private" e-mail when it is sent via a public forum??? If one composes and sends and e-mail to another (thus giving it to another), who does it belong to? Is it private or public? If it no longer belongs to the sender should the receiver be able to do whatever s/he wishes with the e-mail. Yes? No?

What do you think I am -- an attorney? LOL
Who cares? (Goodie...I'm publishing your e-mails). LOL
Have to think about it for a while. LOL
Lighten up and go destroy another Roger Miller song. LOL
Not too many have a sense of humor. LOL
I have a better quip! LOL


The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


sleekbeauty 73F

6/1/2009 8:34 pm

If it were Tranq's or unduplicated's emails demeaning another chatter, then by all means post them.

When my feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh Crap, She's up!"


c3c5

6/1/2009 10:13 pm

Leading questions. Grin. Is this for fun or serious. Have fun with it but it is still serious.

Might we start at the beginning? When was the first letter sent. And progress from there? So what was the norm afore? 'Hard to copy' thus private (easily moral) by default? Now the 'electronic' form makes it easy to copy and send to the world. Thus dampening/removing any moral guilt.

The actual legalities are on the net somewhere. And SFF seems to think they have the copyright on any words you lay down transmit through them.

I've quoted pieces of information/data (an idea, tool, process) via email for sharing knowledge (fair use?) without permission but not identifying anyone. Most data was already in the public domain. But never to harm the sender.

I have been on the receiving end of someone publicly sharing my communique. Out of context and, putting me in bad light. So I do understand where and how it can be used to cause great harm.

A sense of humor? Like those that with multiple handles here. Only do it "for fun". Yea right! And, at who's expense?


bijou624

6/2/2009 1:08 am

Hi Red: Unfortunately some private messages are just so bizarre that we have to share them. What I do is leave out the sender's username (as the guy undoubtedly has enough problems already)

Dear Bijou: Your image has entranced me. You are top and unbelievably seducing. You made me fall speechless out of enchantment and fascination. Your feminine allure is irresistible. In short I am obsessed and frenzied by you. I hope I am not too unrealistic about my emotions I feel towards you. But so I feel anyway. What are we then waiting for? There is no time to waste. Life is not guaranteed, its span and extent are out of one's hand. Are you sure you can extend it one day, one hour or even one moment? Of course not. So let us approach each other, reach each other, see each other, touch each other and feel each other right now; then we may unite in a moment or in no time but for ever. If we wait until tomorrow then we are too late, and if we do it today then we are not early enough. Let us start now stat although I wish we could have started last month or 30 years back. I want to cuddle, kiss, hug, pamper, enjoy and please you all together at the same time. I already decided to enter with you into the world of love. Don't think too much, don't talk too much; it is now time for action, i.e., for translating our wishes and hopes into actual being. So write back to tell me you too has accepted me and say nothing more. With all loving regards.
Yours sincerely,
XXX


blackpool_bloke 72M

6/2/2009 4:00 am

once you press send its everybodies ( as several government officials have found out to their cost )

as karin says dont post it unless you are happy that all will read it


bikenski 80M

6/2/2009 6:32 am

My own view is that email should not be shared without the approval of the sender. There are exceptional circumstances, such as attempts to defraud or misrepresent oneself.


sweetbache2jenna 74F

6/2/2009 9:43 am

    Quoting c3c5:
    Leading questions. Grin. Is this for fun or serious. Have fun with it but it is still serious.

    Might we start at the beginning? When was the first letter sent. And progress from there? So what was the norm afore? 'Hard to copy' thus private (easily moral) by default? Now the 'electronic' form makes it easy to copy and send to the world. Thus dampening/removing any moral guilt.

    The actual legalities are on the net somewhere. And SFF seems to think they have the copyright on any words you lay down transmit through them.

    I've quoted pieces of information/data (an idea, tool, process) via email for sharing knowledge (fair use?) without permission but not identifying anyone. Most data was already in the public domain. But never to harm the sender.

    I have been on the receiving end of someone publicly sharing my communique. Out of context and, putting me in bad light. So I do understand where and how it can be used to cause great harm.

    A sense of humor? Like those that with multiple handles here. Only do it "for fun". Yea right! And, at who's expense?
Sometimes emails come back to haunt you, as it did with that one from Canada. She had every right to post it if she wished, once it left and entered into her inbox it became hers.Her choice to share if she so pleased.Unfortunately the sender of that email got BUSTED with her own intention, showed her true ways and didn't like it much because of that fact alone.I see alot of posting of emails here on blogs.Just so happens the only time a banning occurs is when one is so vindictive, she has to try to turn it all around to make it look like she has done no wrong by creating the situation in the first place.

I have to agree with Karin, her words make complete and total sense!


When something wicked this way comes, run!


WeHaventMetYet 75M

6/2/2009 11:55 am

Hey there little red riding hood, I don't think little big girls should..........
Hi Red I wish I could have caught myself a couple of times before I pushed that send button, some things are better, left unsaid!!!


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 12:19 pm

    Quoting  :

"...and on the seventh day..."

Star, thanks for stopping by.




The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 12:22 pm

    Quoting karinpepita:
    Don't write anything you would not want to be on the front page of a newspaper (quote from Oprah)
Karin ~~ Thanks for the valuable quote/information. I'd also like to add "never volunteer any more information than necessary".

Always great to see you my friend.



The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 12:28 pm

    Quoting sleekbeauty:
    If it were Tranq's or unduplicated's emails demeaning another chatter, then by all means post them.
Sleek ~~ I wasn't attempting to single out Tranq's, Undup's or anyone elses' e-mail. I certainly don't believe rules apply to only a select few. Just wonderin' what others were a-thinkin' on the subject.

Thanks for stopping by.



The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 12:35 pm

    Quoting  :

Tom ~~ Is that something like "the party of the first part agrees with the party of the second part..." ??? LOL You sure you're not an attorney? No (comma) Esq. after your fine name? No JD? Lady justice isn't sitting upon your desk? Turn down a SCOTUSA nomination?

Thanks for stopping by my friend. As always, I value your opinion.




The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 12:40 pm

    Quoting  :

Sing ~~ I think you've found out Tom's secret! All along I thought he was a movie star...now we learn it's TV!!! After you get his autograph, will ya sell it to me?

Sing...BTW...love your new pic. Wait!! Haven't I seen you in movies?? Is that you Angelina???





The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 1:05 pm

    Quoting  :

Tranq ~~

It is obvious that I have not banned you from commenting and/or reading my blogs since you've (as of the date and time of this comment) now placed three uncalled for nasty comments on this blog. I certainly believe in freedom of speech. BUT...I also believe that said freedom of speech does not mean someone can slander and/or libel another, spew racist remarks or the like.

Although your comments will remain for a short period of time to allow you to re-think what you said and perhaps amend your libelous verbiage, I will be deleting said comments. Further, at this blog, you are also welcome to provide verifiable "facts" (as you put it) and/or apologize to those you've libeled. And, pa-leese, everything is not about nor circles around you.

As most could figure out, the purpose of this blog was to ask a fair question but to also "lighten up" -- see the humor in senseless feudin' n fussin'. I take it you missed the point.

Tranq...Life is too short to be negative, miserable and hateful. You'll destroy your health with bitterness. How sad for you.




The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 1:37 pm

    Quoting c3c5:
    Leading questions. Grin. Is this for fun or serious. Have fun with it but it is still serious.

    Might we start at the beginning? When was the first letter sent. And progress from there? So what was the norm afore? 'Hard to copy' thus private (easily moral) by default? Now the 'electronic' form makes it easy to copy and send to the world. Thus dampening/removing any moral guilt.

    The actual legalities are on the net somewhere. And SFF seems to think they have the copyright on any words you lay down transmit through them.

    I've quoted pieces of information/data (an idea, tool, process) via email for sharing knowledge (fair use?) without permission but not identifying anyone. Most data was already in the public domain. But never to harm the sender.

    I have been on the receiving end of someone publicly sharing my communique. Out of context and, putting me in bad light. So I do understand where and how it can be used to cause great harm.

    A sense of humor? Like those that with multiple handles here. Only do it "for fun". Yea right! And, at who's expense?
C3C5 ~~ By George! I think he's got it!! LOL

At first I wondered if e-mails are considered private or public property and/or who was the "owner" of the e-mails. After all, it is words published in a public forum. Then I thought people needed to lighten up. Life is too short to be grumpy and negative. So the blog became tongue-in-cheek fun...but serious...but fun...but serious...the beat goes on! I was hoping people would be careful with the words they use when writing and be kinder to one another. Not make libelous remarks...after all does one really want to be sued?? (And if the answer is yes, WOWIE...I know just the perfect attorney to represent you).

Thanks, my friend, for stopping by. I enjoyed your input.




The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 1:43 pm

    Quoting bijou624:
    Hi Red: Unfortunately some private messages are just so bizarre that we have to share them. What I do is leave out the sender's username (as the guy undoubtedly has enough problems already)

    Dear Bijou: Your image has entranced me. You are top and unbelievably seducing. You made me fall speechless out of enchantment and fascination. Your feminine allure is irresistible. In short I am obsessed and frenzied by you. I hope I am not too unrealistic about my emotions I feel towards you. But so I feel anyway. What are we then waiting for? There is no time to waste. Life is not guaranteed, its span and extent are out of one's hand. Are you sure you can extend it one day, one hour or even one moment? Of course not. So let us approach each other, reach each other, see each other, touch each other and feel each other right now; then we may unite in a moment or in no time but for ever. If we wait until tomorrow then we are too late, and if we do it today then we are not early enough. Let us start now stat although I wish we could have started last month or 30 years back. I want to cuddle, kiss, hug, pamper, enjoy and please you all together at the same time. I already decided to enter with you into the world of love. Don't think too much, don't talk too much; it is now time for action, i.e., for translating our wishes and hopes into actual being. So write back to tell me you too has accepted me and say nothing more. With all loving regards.
    Yours sincerely,
    XXX
Hi Ya Bijou ~~ I agree...some are so bizarre that in order to attempt to explain them, they must be shared in full form. I'd prefer names/handles not be included but that, is of course, my own opinion. Also, it is also my opinion that it is important we share information (such as the e-mail you placed in your comment) with each other. How else do we all know "so-n-so handle" is a cad/womanizer/gold digger/whatever?

Bijou, thanks for stopping by. It's always nice to hear from you, I value your input and hope you are doing just great!




The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 1:45 pm

    Quoting Dreamgirl1:
    Oh! I have a few I could publish .I will check back here and see if it is okay .
Dream ~~ Might I suggest publishing with no name? Some may recognize the "style" and know who it is without naming!

Glad you stopped by.



The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 1:56 pm

    Quoting blackpool_bloke:
    once you press send its everybodies ( as several government officials have found out to their cost )

    as karin says dont post it unless you are happy that all will read it
Bloke ~~ Was thinkin' the same thing...which means one must be careful what they say in written form (not to mention being careful when in spoken form). I'm agreeing with you and Karin 100%.

Thanks for stopping by. You're always welcome here.



The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 1:59 pm

    Quoting  :

ET ~~ I hear ya! And as the former mayor of Detroit, Kwame Kilpatrick, can tell ya, it also extends to text messages. Slander, libel and perjury....ouch!

Thanks for stopping by my friend. Looking forward to Aug in the Dells.



The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 2:01 pm

    Quoting bikenski:
    My own view is that email should not be shared without the approval of the sender. There are exceptional circumstances, such as attempts to defraud or misrepresent oneself.
Bike ~~ Thanks! I appreciate your sharing your view/opinion.

Please stop by any time.



The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 2:05 pm

    Quoting  :

Airforce ~~ Thanks for bringing up good points. I never even thought about the "who owns what" angle from the business owners' view. I still say don't write it if you don't want others to see/read it!

Thanks for stopping by. Hope to see ya again...and how are you doing these days?



The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 2:14 pm

    Quoting  :

Belle ~~ Are ya saying sharing the "private" e-mail is akin to betraying a trust? Kinda exposing one's soul/feelings to an outsider?? I get it. Similar to getting up the nerve to tell someone something that one finds serious and then the other person laughs? Or am I on the wrong track?

Yes, when it comes to form/scams/etc e-mails I say expose away...who wants their friends/family potentially hurt by 'em?

As always, thanks, Belle, for stopping by. You know how much I value your opinion...even when we disagree!




The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


hobsonschoice 75F
3600 posts
6/2/2009 2:17 pm

Let's put it this way, if you really don't want to receive emails from people, then by all means - post away. I know I certainly wouldn't be emailing individuals that passed or posted personal emails received by them. If they'll do it to someone else, they'll do it to you too. I put it in the same category as those who meet, and it doesn't work out, go into blogs or chat and "tell all". Is that someone you'd want to meet???? There comes a point in time where the person most likely to be damaged is yourself.

As my wise old Mama used to say, "never put anything in writing you wouldn't want the rest of the world to read." Same holds true for photographs...


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 2:22 pm

    Quoting  :

Wink ~~ How wise you are. Perhaps it better to add an addendum to one's e-mail requesting that it remain private and uncirculated? I think you're being polite...it's caused more than angst at this site!

Wink, as always I appreciate your stopping by and commenting. Your opinion is important to me.




The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 2:30 pm

    Quoting sweetbache2jenna:
    Sometimes emails come back to haunt you, as it did with that one from Canada. She had every right to post it if she wished, once it left and entered into her inbox it became hers.Her choice to share if she so pleased.Unfortunately the sender of that email got BUSTED with her own intention, showed her true ways and didn't like it much because of that fact alone.I see alot of posting of emails here on blogs.Just so happens the only time a banning occurs is when one is so vindictive, she has to try to turn it all around to make it look like she has done no wrong by creating the situation in the first place.

    I have to agree with Karin, her words make complete and total sense!
SB2Jenna ~~ Yes, all types of written and/or oral forms of communication can come back and haunt. IMO the reason we shouldn't be so daring as to libel or slander another. BTW I wasn't as concerned here about banning as I was about proper e-mail protocol (and/or ownership of same). I appreciate you sharing your opinion.

Glad you stopped by.



The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.


RedRidingHood10 73F
3728 posts
6/2/2009 2:31 pm

    Quoting  :

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The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.