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starwomyn 70F
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10/13/2008 8:27 pm

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10/27/2008 6:30 am

Thoughts on the 12 Step Community

This is in response to SFF Member's response to one of my Questions in the Magazine and her perceptions of the 12 Step Community.

I suppose you call this a Piggy Back Blog.

*FISH Quotes Religion is the opiate of the masses.....I also classify the 12 step programs under the heading of religion. I have a friend who has been an AA leader for 27 years, .

SW replies "What the HECK is an AA Leader? There are no bosses in A.A. Granted Folks who acquire Time in Sobriety are RESPECTED and will Guide the NewComers so that they can acheive recovery

*FISH Quotes They go to at least 2 meetings a week, and AA and NA events are almost their whole social life, including their holiday and travel destinations.

SW Replies I bet when they were new in recovery they went to a lot more than 2 meetings a week. If a person is struggling with Cancer, you can bet that person devotes a lot of time getting well.

"There are always communities within communities. The Christian Community, the Jewish Community, The Pagan Community, The Naturalist Community, The Gay Community, the Deaf Community and Oh Yes EVEN the TWELVE STEP COMMUNITY. Birds of a Feather flock together and socialize with each other. Is that such a Bad Thing?


*FISH quotes "I am one of her few non AA friends, she has attempted to lure me to meetings, even
though I have never had a drinking or drug problem, and have
been allergic to alcohol for 10 years, so don't drink
at all."


SW Replies, "She wants to LURE you to a Meeting? Luring is what you do to a Fish. If a Friend INVITES me to her Church but that's an invite not a LURE

SF quotes "She says one doesn't need to have a problem in order to go to AA...everyone is welcome."

SW replies "There ARE some Open Meetings where non-alcoholics are welcome but there are ALSO Closed Meetings for Alcoholics Only.

*FISH quotes Well, I have attended
some meetings, birthdays etc....and spending my time
listening to long winded, dysfunctional addiction stories
sure isn't my idea of a good time.


SW Replies, Listening to someone's Story on Recovery is a lot more interesting than sitting in a bar listening to a bunch of disfunctional drunks.

*Fish Quotes Don't get me wrong,
I think it is a wonderful organization that has done a lot
of good for a lot of people, but I think it can replace the
original addiction...it even meets the widely accepted
8 criteria for a mind-control cult.


The quickest way to get rid of a bad habit is to replace it with a good one. It's better to go to a 12 Step Meeting instead of going to a Tavern. It's better to go out to coffee with a bunch of sober friends than to staying at home alone on the pity pot looking for a excuse to get the brown bottle flu. It's better to pick up the phone and call a friend than to pick up a drink. If helping other people is an addiction, it's better than the alternative.

*Fish Quotes "My friend who has been sober for 27 years, has a 26 year old , who she is terrified will inherit her addiction, as she comes from alcoholic parents,"


SW Replies, "Dah! Hearing Disabilities also run in my family. I was CONCERNED rather than Terrified that my sons would inherit my Hearing Disability and My Younger DID. It's good that my CONCERN enabled me to observe and pick up on it so that we could do something about it. So he started wearing Hearing Aids when he was three years old. He went to a School for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing until he was mainstreamed into regular school.

My also had issues with addiction but chose to take responsibility for it. Being an Alcoholic is not a personal choice but we can chose to take responsibilty for it. Being a member of the 12 Step Community is alot better than the alternative.





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