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starwomyn 70F
5258 posts
2/5/2022 12:06 am

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2/12/2022 1:17 am

Jung, Tarot, Archetype of Creative Emptiness (The FOOL)

Last month, I did a blog using the terms Higher Self and Shadow Self. Lulu pointed out that these terms belong to Jung and not sure that folks should be using them differently. So I decided to RESEARCH.

I delighted to find an online class connecting to Major Arcana of the Tarot to Jung Archetypes so I purchased the cards and the book that goes with them.

All I have is a humble TW0 year degree and reading this stuff makes my head spin. What better way to learn than to utilize the cards and blog about it.

So I ask a question - pull a few cards using the Major Arcana as the signifier.

VOILA!!!!

The Fool = the Archetype of Creative Emptiness. This is an individual with ideas ahead of their time, which will not bear fruit until the next generation. They lay down foundations for the advancement of human welfare.. The nonexistent roots of the collective unconscious.

Past Lesson = Six of Cups This is an individual who sees themselve in terms as to a group and submerged in the collective consciousness. Self Reliance may disappear. Following the crowd may not be in their best interest.

Current Lessons = Two of Wands Idea that is absolutely brilliant and original product with support as no precedent exists for their wor

Future Lesson - One of Wands - New Beginning and able to stand alone and stand alone - taking action to a successful conclusion.




Abracadabra


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
2/5/2022 12:08 am

Spring Equinox on the Horizon

Abracadabra


Rocketship 80F
18568 posts
2/5/2022 7:22 am

Interesting~~~

Although I'm not into Tarot readings or horoscopes, I think that they often serve as good reminders of things to watch out for in our lives.


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
2/5/2022 7:59 am

    Quoting  :

Trying to figure out Jung is like trying to understand Chinese but I am determined to figure it out.

Abracadabra


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
2/5/2022 8:17 am

Very interesting Star.

I have a couple questions for you. Do you still do Tarot readings? If you do readings for people, do you feel your energies being drained from some readings?


Maudie1 74F
8151 posts
2/5/2022 1:21 pm

I find it all very interesting indeed. Can't say I understand it though.


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
2/6/2022 4:55 am

    Quoting Nileyears:
    Very interesting Star.

    I have a couple questions for you. Do you still do Tarot readings? If you do readings for people, do you feel your energies being drained from some readings?
I have a couple of girlfriends and we like going to the local coffee house and "play cards." Most of the time when I do cards for someone, I feel energized. Sometimes I've done cards and feel nothing. I usually will do a horary astrology chart with a back up tarot reading. It is always exciting to get a news cards, although some will speak to me more than others. I love the Jungian Tarot but they do take research to understand the Archetypes. I suspect that's what makes them fun.

Abracadabra


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
2/6/2022 9:28 am

Hmmm my head swirls with the many unanswered queries of the future......................... Will I ever get the ding set finished to my liking?


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
2/6/2022 10:15 am

"Lulu pointed out that these terms belong to Jung and not sure that folks should be using them differently."

Just to clarify.....I did not say that the terms "belong" to Jung.....What I said was that the terms were first used by him and they were subsequently used for decades to refer to Jung's definitions....

Therefore, when you use the same terminology to have a different meaning, it's impossible to communicate unless you supply a definition of those terms.

One of the reasons Jung is confusing is that he was confused. He lived a long life and much of his published writings are ruminations....throwing his ideas about the unconscious and the unmanifest at the wall to see if it would stick.......And sometimes he was just so enamored by his own imagination that he didn't care if it stuck, but just kept rambling for his own entertainment presumably. He wrote down his speculations about the Tarot Archetypes and years later produced a more scientific approach, but those who are enamored wit Tarot and want it to be true, choose to focus on his earlier meanderings.,,

Jung is confusing because he was confused.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
2/6/2022 10:58 am

for Jung, the dialogue between the "I" and the divine "Thou" is the dialectic dialogue between the ego and the archetypal powers of the unconscious...


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
2/6/2022 11:10 am

This refers to religion a well as "conspiracy theories" and political movements..

" It should not be overlooked that what I am concerned with are psychic phenomenon which can be proved empirically to be the base of metaphysical concerns, and that when, for example, I speak of "God", I am unable to refer to anything beyond these demonstrably psychic models which, we have to admit, have shown themselves to be devastatingly real. To anyone who finds their reality incredible, I would recommend a reflective tour of a lunatic asylum."......Carl Jung


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
2/12/2022 1:17 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    "Lulu pointed out that these terms belong to Jung and not sure that folks should be using them differently."

    Just to clarify.....I did not say that the terms "belong" to Jung.....What I said was that the terms were first used by him and they were subsequently used for decades to refer to Jung's definitions....

    Therefore, when you use the same terminology to have a different meaning, it's impossible to communicate unless you supply a definition of those terms.

    One of the reasons Jung is confusing is that he was confused. He lived a long life and much of his published writings are ruminations....throwing his ideas about the unconscious and the unmanifest at the wall to see if it would stick.......And sometimes he was just so enamored by his own imagination that he didn't care if it stuck, but just kept rambling for his own entertainment presumably. He wrote down his speculations about the Tarot Archetypes and years later produced a more scientific approach, but those who are enamored wit Tarot and want it to be true, choose to focus on his earlier meanderings.,,

    Jung is confusing because he was confused.


I am not an expert on Jung but I do know that he was one of the major players in the field of Psychology and his work is worth investigation. I just thought it was interesting to connect Jung which I know little about to Tarot which I am definitely familiar with. Tarot is not Abracadabra, Zippity Zap, This is your future, this is your past, so deal with it. It is tapping into intuition which we all have. There are some things that pure science can't always explain.

Abracadabra