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starwomyn 70F
5422 posts
4/5/2021 6:13 pm

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5/1/2021 11:43 am

A Man/WOMYN of GOD!!!!

I am "intellectually" curious about why some individuals are so troubled about the doings of people of faith.

There is also this chosen frozen attitude that people of faith have walk in perfection. Actually, it is the opposite. There are folks who are in desperate situations and reach out for divine intervention turn thier lives around.

They are not on a spiritual path because they ARE better. They are on that path because they want BE better and DO better. Spiritual Progress versus Spiritual Perfection. It's a process that takes and even a lifetime.

I consider my own life journey. I was an avid church goer even when my parents did not attend church. There was abuse on the home front. School life wasn't much better. I was born with a hearing and speech disorder which inspired my peers degrade and bully. I seriously considered and even attempted suicide as a . Church life told that I could do better.

I did have problems with the concept that different individuals from other religions or spiritual paths were destined for eternal torment in hell. That I cannot and will not ever accept. This prevented me from fully committing. I started researching other spiritual concepts.

I was slammed by Alcoholism in my teens and early 20's. When I stumbled into a XII Step Hall , I found the lifeline. God as we understood him. A loving God as she may express ourselves in our conscious.

I stayed sober. I learned to be better and do better by developing conscious contact with a Higher Power.

I certainly don't understand the atheist mindset, but there is an "intellectual curiosity." "She Who Disbelieves" pointed the Easter is a celebration of the Eostre, the Germanic goddess of Spring. Actually is Ostara celebrated on the Spring Equinox. Easter is cerebrated on the Sunday after the Full Moon after the Spring Equinox. Early Christian leaders needed Astrologers to figure that one . BRAVO!

So going back to "intellectual curiosity," The Christian God Yahweh (YHWH) was able to impregnate a mortal woman and create Yeshua Hamashiach. There was no letter "J" in the Era of Christ.

Some of the earlier Gods like Zeus and Apollo certainly got around impregnating mortal women. The offspring of these deities were called Demigod.

So here is my theory about the mindset of "She Who Has No Belief." Somewhere a long time ago in a far away land, Thor or perhaps Loki encounter "Disbeliever's" several times Great Grandmother. They came together and did the "wild thing!" Herself is in fact a Demigoddess?! She acknowledges no Power Higher than Herself. She has problems understand why other individuals prioritize a deity versus laying fruits and flowers her feet.



Abracadabra


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
4/5/2021 6:22 pm

Does God really reside in the sky? Is there really a Sky Daddy or a Sky Mommy for that matter up above? Is is possible that the Ultimate Deity resides in other realms, dimensions or perhaps within. Perhaps at some level, we are all demigods and demigoddesses.

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/5/2021 7:54 pm

I doubt very much that there is or ever has been a Human being who has no belief....


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
4/5/2021 9:06 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I doubt very much that there is or ever has been a Human being who has no belief....
Undoubtedly, there is the belief that God is a mythical Sky Daddy not nothing that can prove it into knowledge. Folks have a tendency to test what we believe but not so what we know. When we are sure we know something, we do not really go back and try to verify it. We tend to accept our knowledge more readily than our beliefs. Our beliefs, however, are constantly put to test; by us, by people around, by situations, experiences among many other things.

I can prove my ancestry up to the 1600's (Thank God for church records) thus knowledge but I can't verify the demigod/ess that I descended from thus belief..

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/5/2021 10:04 pm

A belief is an acceptance that some proposition about the world is true.....That's it...... More than a billion people believe that Mohammed flew to Heaven on a winged horse, a couple of billion believe that a God impregnated a virgin with himself, some people believe the Earth is flat, some people believe that Hillary Clinton leads a cabal of canniballistic pedophiles in the basement of a pizza joint.......

I believe that the Scientific Method is the best process we have for obtaining information about the World .......and I will continue to believe that until someone comes up with a more reliable method......


MrsJoe 76F
17400 posts
4/5/2021 10:21 pm

I do not have to justify my belief in God to anyone but myself. But I have seen, with my own eyes, and heard of from reliable people, miraculous occurrences that had to be the work of God. There have been too many to even consider that they were coincidence.
I believe that Jesus is the Son of God, that He died on the cross for the sins of the world and was resurrected and that it is up to each person whether they accept the gift of salvation that He offers.
People can argue this way or that way all they want, but in the end, it is an individual decision to be made and nobody should be held to ridicule by others who hold a different opinion.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


buddie 82F
905 posts
4/6/2021 7:16 am

I'm not a believer but enjoy the benefits of community and family service that some religious groups offer.
Within my lifetime, I have witnessed several inexplicable/miraculous occurrences, whether they were flukes or by intervention, don't know and don't really care. Am just glad to have had those experiences.


MrsJoe 76F
17400 posts
4/6/2021 9:44 am

I watched a lady's arm instantly grow 3-4 inches to be as normal as her other one. I saw our little daughter who could not eat normal table food (she would try to swallow and just sit there and gag and drool, and had tests run at the hospital and the docs did not know why) eat an entire hamburger after she had hands laid on her and she was prayed over by men at a FGBMFI meeting. When one of our little girls fell against the wood burner, her entire stomach area was burned, blistered up and the skin was hanging in white shreds. Her pain stopped instantly with prayer, and by morning, all the burn was healed and only healthy pink skin remained.
I've seen gashes bleeding profusely, that stopped bleeding and closed up almost immediately after prayer.
Those are just a few..... and if, as Lulu asserts, they are illusions, then I'm mighty glad I have had them and expect to see more of them. But I know they are works of the Lord, and I am very blessed.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/6/2021 10:36 am

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    I watched a lady's arm instantly grow 3-4 inches to be as normal as her other one. I saw our little daughter who could not eat normal table food (she would try to swallow and just sit there and gag and drool, and had tests run at the hospital and the docs did not know why) eat an entire hamburger after she had hands laid on her and she was prayed over by men at a FGBMFI meeting. When one of our little girls fell against the wood burner, her entire stomach area was burned, blistered up and the skin was hanging in white shreds. Her pain stopped instantly with prayer, and by morning, all the burn was healed and only healthy pink skin remained.
    I've seen gashes bleeding profusely, that stopped bleeding and closed up almost immediately after prayer.
    Those are just a few..... and if, as Lulu asserts, they are illusions, then I'm mighty glad I have had them and expect to see more of them. But I know they are works of the Lord, and I am very blessed.
Wow, that's some serious stories you're telling yourself.....


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
4/6/2021 11:30 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I disagree....Ridiculous ideas should be ridiculed.....I think we have a social responsibility to test ideas that defy Natural laws...

    The conviction that there is an all-powerful, conscious, intentional being in control and in charge of the Universe is incredibly destructive to life on this planet and rational Humans have the right and the responsibility to ridicule those ideas.

    The fact that you believe you have witnessed super-natural events only illustrated the depths of your illusions......


Actually what is called in bullying under the guise of "intellectual curiosity." No one should have to justify thier spiritual beliefs or experiences to you yet you have the need to tear down and ridicule to justify your disdain for anyone who has a different prospective than yours.

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/6/2021 1:18 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Undoubtedly, there is the belief that God is a mythical Sky Daddy not nothing that can prove it into knowledge. Folks have a tendency to test what we believe but not so what we know. When we are sure we know something, we do not really go back and try to verify it. We tend to accept our knowledge more readily than our beliefs. Our beliefs, however, are constantly put to test; by us, by people around, by situations, experiences among many other things.

    I can prove my ancestry up to the 1600's (Thank God for church records) thus knowledge but I can't verify the demigod/ess that I descended from thus belief..
Sounds like you are ignorant of how the Scientific Method works. ......When a person has a belief, they go back and verify it......That's how Humans have made all the advances in knowledge since the Bible was written.......Testing theories......testing, testing, peer reviews, more testing.......Where have you been?


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/6/2021 1:36 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Actually what is called in bullying under the guise of "intellectual curiosity." No one should have to justify thier spiritual beliefs or experiences to you yet you have the need to tear down and ridicule to justify your disdain for anyone who has a different prospective than yours.
I'm not asking you to justify your beliefs.....you volunteered.....

You live in an insular world where Christianity is deferred to constantly.....You assume that Christianity is sacrosanct, that non-Christians don't have a right to free speech.......Out in the big-bad-world of reality, people are applying humour, satire and ridicule to everything under the sun, with no objection from you or the other delicate Christians who are so offended that their favourite fairy -tale isn't revered.......


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/6/2021 1:55 pm

    Quoting  :

They're just mad because I made fun of the contemporary white, Jesus story.....The western middle-class white Sunday-school hero .......


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
4/6/2021 3:48 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I'm not asking you to justify your beliefs.....you volunteered.....

    You live in an insular world where Christianity is deferred to constantly.....You assume that Christianity is sacrosanct, that non-Christians don't have a right to free speech.......Out in the big-bad-world of reality, people are applying humour, satire and ridicule to everything under the sun, with no objection from you or the other delicate Christians who are so offended that their favourite fairy -tale isn't revered.......
Non Christians don't have a right to Free Speech? The United States Constitution and the First Amendment say otherwise. I am not sure how works out in Canada but I am sure that you won't be incarcerated for being a jerk.

Granted, I have the first amendment right of free speech but there are some things that I don't express out of respect for others.


Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/6/2021 5:36 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Non Christians don't have a right to Free Speech? The United States Constitution and the First Amendment say otherwise. I am not sure how works out in Canada but I am sure that you won't be incarcerated for being a jerk.

    Granted, I have the first amendment right of free speech but there are some things that I don't express out of respect for others.
You get your panties in a huge bunch over some jokes that point out the hypocrisy of Christian holidays........You obviously can't take a joke......There are people on this site who disrespect others on a daily basis.....like Hank and Fargo, but you just let that go by.....could it be because you are on the same God team.....ahem....speaking of hypocrisy.......


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
4/6/2021 8:21 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You get your panties in a huge bunch over some jokes that point out the hypocrisy of Christian holidays........You obviously can't take a joke......There are people on this site who disrespect others on a daily basis.....like Hank and Fargo, but you just let that go by.....could it be because you are on the same God team.....ahem....speaking of hypocrisy.......
Your tasteless not so "funnies" I can easily ignore. Attacks on a friend who is doing you no harm will merit a response. Your blanket statements about people of faith are ridiculous. It's more a reflection of who you are versus who they are. There are some blogs that I seldom read. There are some who get their jollies tearing other people down regardless of the God team that they identify themselves with.. . I didn't put you in that catergory. Perhaps I should.

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/7/2021 9:35 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Your tasteless not so "funnies" I can easily ignore. Attacks on a friend who is doing you no harm will merit a response. Your blanket statements about people of faith are ridiculous. It's more a reflection of who you are versus who they are. There are some blogs that I seldom read. There are some who get their jollies tearing other people down regardless of the God team that they identify themselves with.. . I didn't put you in that catergory. Perhaps I should.
I sure don't care what "category" you place me in.....that has nothing to do with me.....and neither does your friendships with people on this site.....I responded to the hypocrisy and that sickening Christian sanctimony she displayed....the same person who causes those awful, religious allegories to be posted every day and told us several times, after Hank made hateful, insulting rants, that he was a kind. generous person ......She said "For those who celebrate the true and deeper meaning of Easter, we realize it is not about us, or family, but about the Lord.".......I was fed up with her sanctimonious attitude.......

The attitude that her beliefs are the "true" belief and that those who don't subscribe to her belief system are shallow......That only she and those who think like her have some kind of corner on depth of experience and/or meaning.........It sickens me to my core...


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
4/7/2021 12:46 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I sure don't care what "category" you place me in.....that has nothing to do with me.....and neither does your friendships with people on this site.....I responded to the hypocrisy and that sickening Christian sanctimony she displayed....the same person who causes those awful, religious allegories to be posted every day and told us several times, after Hank made hateful, insulting rants, that he was a kind. generous person ......She said "For those who celebrate the true and deeper meaning of Easter, we realize it is not about us, or family, but about the Lord.".......I was fed up with her sanctimonious attitude.......

    The attitude that her beliefs are the "true" belief and that those who don't subscribe to her belief system are shallow......That only she and those who think like her have some kind of corner on depth of experience and/or meaning.........It sickens me to my core...
If a United States citizen wants to believe that their beliefs are the only true beliefs, that is their U.S. Constitutional First Amendment Right. United States Citizens have the right to attend Jewish Synagogues, Islamic Mosques, Buddhist Temples, Ad Infinitum and even attend Atheist Conventions. They can even partipate in Covens and Groves. The United States does tend to be predominantly Christian especially West Virginia' I tend to look for similarities versus differences and always manage to find common ground.

Some of us have friendships beyond SFF Blogland and might see qualities in that individuals beyond the blogs. The individual that you are disdaining is going through though some extremely trying times. There are some things that words cannot fix. The death of her son, a grandchild going through major health challenges, in addition to being a caretaker for her husband.

There are some of us including Hank who have reached out to try and bring her comfort and hope. Having a strong Faith also helps. She has certainly helped me in so many ways including when I was dealing with the death of my brother and later my husband.


Abracadabra


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
4/7/2021 4:03 pm

'There is also this chosen frozen attitude that people of faith have walk in perfection. Actually, it is the opposite. There are folks who are in desperate situations and reach out for divine intervention turn thier lives around.'

'The Church is not a museum for saints, but a hospital for sinners' comes to mind. Pope Francis recently echoed similar when likening the Church to a 'field hospital after battle; that a broken world needs a place to bring its spiritual injuries; an emergency room more needed than a courtroom; more healing than judgement. That the confessional is not a torture chamber, but the place in which the Lord's mercy motivates us to do better.'


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
4/7/2021 4:26 pm

She said "For those who celebrate the true and deeper meaning of Easter, we realize it is not about us, or family, but about the Lord.".......I was fed up with her sanctimonious attitude.......

MrsJoe simply stated Christianity's most fundamental/central truth (Christ's resurrection) - nothing more, nothing less


Maudie1 74F
8151 posts
4/8/2021 1:03 am

    Quoting lilium6:
    'There is also this chosen frozen attitude that people of faith have walk in perfection. Actually, it is the opposite. There are folks who are in desperate situations and reach out for divine intervention turn thier lives around.'

    'The Church is not a museum for saints, but a hospital for sinners' comes to mind. Pope Francis recently echoed similar when likening the Church to a 'field hospital after battle; that a broken world needs a place to bring its spiritual injuries; an emergency room more needed than a courtroom; more healing than judgement. That the confessional is not a torture chamber, but the place in which the Lord's mercy motivates us to do better.'
So very true