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starwomyn 70F
5345 posts
9/12/2019 9:36 pm

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9/16/2019 1:13 am

Prayers,Thoughts,ASoundMind&ThePowerof TIMOTHY!

Sometimes Prayers and Thoughts is all that we can offer to help. This evening, I was at a 12 Step Meeting. The 12 Step concept started with the Oxford Group transformed into A.A. and has spanned into over 200 self-help group. There is a consensus in each group that there is a singleness of purpose and it's not a cure-all.

This evening a young man walked into our meeting who had obvious problems with schizophrenia combined with meth addiction. These are problems that our group is not equipped to deal with but we offered him a chair along with a cup of coffee nonetheless.

Ironically, we were talking about the second step. "Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to SANITY" If this young man got into the right group and ditched the meth, he could be helped. I observed one man who was schizophrenia/alcoholic who turned his life around.

I started visualizing a healing light around the young man and silently quoted "2 Timothy 1 7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. He was sharing and crying but I kept praying and quoting Timothy.

The young man quietly left after the meeting. I hope he runs into the guardian/earth angels who will direct him to where he can find the healing that he needs.

I was talking to an older man after the meeting who confided that he was shaken by the young man's presence. Our group can't help him but we showed him kindness and we can pray for him, I told the older man. Praying is alot. I learned that from a very wise woman.



Abracadabra


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
9/12/2019 9:43 pm

I may never know the results but I know some type of change is on the horizon for the young man.

Abracadabra


Longbow954 64M
7 posts
9/13/2019 2:37 am

Prayer does far more than most give it credit for


MrsJoe 76F
17383 posts
9/13/2019 4:29 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I may never know the results but I know some type of change is on the horizon for the young man.
Because you know the One who is able to make those changes and have asked Him to intervene in that young man's life. I don't believe he stumbled into your meeting by mistake, and the treatment he received there will make an impression on his life and prayers will continue to bring others across his path.
We often never know the impact we have on other's lives, so we should try to make our interactions with them positive.
Your maters look good enough to eat..... lol. Our oldest daughter is keeping us well supplied at the moment, and we dread the day they are all gone.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
9/14/2019 2:59 am

    Quoting  :

Timing is the confirmation that divine intervention happens all the time.

Abracadabra


hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
9/14/2019 5:29 am

One sows, another reaps.

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/14/2019 11:41 am

The success rate of 12-step programs is 3-5%.......Thoughts and prayers are nothing but a comforting illusion......


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
9/15/2019 3:46 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    The success rate of 12-step programs is 3-5%.......Thoughts and prayers are nothing but a comforting illusion......
Success is best determined by the individual who receives the help, not a statistic that is hard to identify. It is indisputable that 12-step programs do help people, a lot of people. There are over 2 million reported active members in Alcoholics Anonymous alone.

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/15/2019 6:08 am

Two million people in the US or world-wide?......That's a drop in the bucket.........Anyways, the number of people in AA says nothing about the recidivism rate. People go to AA for a lifetime.....that's not a successful program, that's another addiction.


MrsJoe 76F
17383 posts
9/15/2019 12:14 pm

"that's not a successful program, that's another addiction. " That can be true, but it isn't as destructive as the addiction that took them there in the first place, and some make friends there are find it a social outlet. A large amount of the members though, remain as members to mentor others. I guess the statistics don't reflect that.

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
9/15/2019 2:37 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Two million people in the US or world-wide?......That's a drop in the bucket.........Anyways, the number of people in AA says nothing about the recidivism rate. People go to AA for a lifetime.....that's not a successful program, that's another addiction.
Alcoholics Anonymous Now. The number of AA members has steadily grown and spread across the globe. Today, Alcoholics Anonymous has an estimated two million members. There are an estimated 115,326 groups in over 175 countries worldwide, and the numbers are still growing.

It is kind of like the boy who was throwing starfish into the ocean, he couldn't save all of them but he could save some of them. A person who relapses and comes back is not a failure anymore that a cancer patient who goes out of remission and needs further medical help.

There is no way to accurately gauge the success stories in A.A. because of the anonymous aspect of the organization. Some people go to A.A. because they got into trouble with the law. They get their court papers signed and move on. Some will conclude that they are alcoholic and stay. Some are not alcoholics and others are but have no desire to change.

The people who are successful are the people who want to be successful.


Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/15/2019 6:39 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Alcoholics Anonymous Now. The number of AA members has steadily grown and spread across the globe. Today, Alcoholics Anonymous has an estimated two million members. There are an estimated 115,326 groups in over 175 countries worldwide, and the numbers are still growing.

    It is kind of like the boy who was throwing starfish into the ocean, he couldn't save all of them but he could save some of them. A person who relapses and comes back is not a failure anymore that a cancer patient who goes out of remission and needs further medical help.

    There is no way to accurately gauge the success stories in A.A. because of the anonymous aspect of the organization. Some people go to A.A. because they got into trouble with the law. They get their court papers signed and move on. Some will conclude that they are alcoholic and stay. Some are not alcoholics and others are but have no desire to change.

    The people who are successful are the people who want to be successful.

Yeah.....I don't throw starfish into the ocean, I throw them into the garden......they are amazing fertilizer.


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
9/16/2019 1:13 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Yeah.....I don't throw starfish into the ocean, I throw them into the garden......they are amazing fertilizer.
How well would a bunch of active alcoholics fertilize your garden? Peeing, pooping and vomiting. Visualize that as all of the unsaved starfish in your garden. I would prefer that they go back into the ocean.

Abracadabra