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earthytaurus3 79F
16237 posts
8/9/2019 4:47 am
Who wields more power?

Who wields more power?
Trump as president
McConnel as leader of the senate


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/9/2019 4:47 am

……………...


MrsJoe 72F
11134 posts
8/9/2019 5:54 am

We, the people, because we could vote them out of office. Sadly, the people have allowed the same few politicians to remain in office for decades, getting richer and richer, while the country deteriorates. I ask, "Why?"
I think the answer is that people vote for their "party" or name recognition or just figure the incumbent can't be any worse that a newcomer.
Perhaps everyone thinks the "other guy's" politician is the crook, not their own?


If you don't expect anything from anybody......You won't be disappointed.


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/9/2019 6:44 am

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    We, the people, because we could vote them out of office. Sadly, the people have allowed the same few politicians to remain in office for decades, getting richer and richer, while the country deteriorates. I ask, "Why?"
    I think the answer is that people vote for their "party" or name recognition or just figure the incumbent can't be any worse that a newcomer.
    Perhaps everyone thinks the "other guy's" politician is the crook, not their own?
Think about it .. and don't make something of it that is not a part of this dialog. WHY would anyone , any "average citizen,' choose to own an assault weapon?? Check out the meaning of 'assault'.


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/9/2019 6:46 am

WHY should McConnell defend assault??


bijou649 70F
585 posts
8/9/2019 6:52 am

McConnell does whatever Trump orders him to, all the politicians are terrified of Trump and keep their mouths shut, the NRA controls all the Repub politicians, there are so many 'acting' heads of most of the cabinet positions so there is no need for Senate approval, there is basically a state run t.v. station who does whatever Trump wants, so basically Trump is in charge of everything.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
3133 posts
8/9/2019 7:03 am

I can't choose. They're both a disgrace to our country. And Barr is running as fast as a fat man can, trying to catch up with them.


bigblock46 73M
9238 posts
8/9/2019 8:40 am

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    Think about it .. and don't make something of it that is not a part of this dialog. WHY would anyone , any "average citizen,' choose to own an assault weapon?? Check out the meaning of 'assault'.
I have no idea, but I feel compelled to ask just what do you consider an assault rifle? I personally have no desire to have an AR-15 or an AK-47. If I were a whole lot younger I would like to have a Henry Repeating Rifle. My hunting days are over and it would be a waste of both money and space.


MrsJoe 72F
11134 posts
8/9/2019 8:43 am

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    Think about it .. and don't make something of it that is not a part of this dialog. WHY would anyone , any "average citizen,' choose to own an assault weapon?? Check out the meaning of 'assault'.
I'm sorry, I didn't read anything about weapons in your blog, just political power and that is on what I based my comment. I didn't see any dialog about assault weapons.


If you don't expect anything from anybody......You won't be disappointed.


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/9/2019 10:11 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    I have no idea, but I feel compelled to ask just what do you consider an assault rifle? I personally have no desire to have an AR-15 or an AK-47. If I were a whole lot younger I would like to have a Henry Repeating Rifle. My hunting days are over and it would be a waste of both money and space.
Check out the definition as written in the bill that previously banned them. There you'll find it.


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/9/2019 10:12 am

I often wonder who has more power. Trump can't fire McConnell.


bob77O21__ 76M
8399 posts
8/9/2019 1:01 pm

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    I often wonder who has more power. Trump can't fire McConnell.
McConnell can't invoke an executive order.


bigblock46 73M
9238 posts
8/9/2019 1:12 pm

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    Check out the definition as written in the bill that previously banned them. There you'll find it.
You mean the ban that had no measurable impact on the number of shootings or the number of shooting deaths while it was in effect. Surely you have your definition.


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/9/2019 2:05 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    You mean the ban that had no measurable impact on the number of shootings or the number of shooting deaths while it was in effect. Surely you have your definition.
No where NEAR what we have NOW. My personal definition does not mean squat. Check out the wording in the ban. That's where it counted. Too lazy?


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/9/2019 2:09 pm

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    We, the people, because we could vote them out of office. Sadly, the people have allowed the same few politicians to remain in office for decades, getting richer and richer, while the country deteriorates. I ask, "Why?"
    I think the answer is that people vote for their "party" or name recognition or just figure the incumbent can't be any worse that a newcomer.
    Perhaps everyone thinks the "other guy's" politician is the crook, not their own?
MrsJoe … Forgive me. I'm old, and I'm bouncing from blog to blog and forgetting where I'm at! LOL I think I need a guide dog. LOL You're right; I'm wrong.


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/9/2019 2:22 pm

    Quoting bijou649:
    McConnell does whatever Trump orders him to, all the politicians are terrified of Trump and keep their mouths shut, the NRA controls all the Repub politicians, there are so many 'acting' heads of most of the cabinet positions so there is no need for Senate approval, there is basically a state run t.v. station who does whatever Trump wants, so basically Trump is in charge of everything.
I don't believe for a nano-second that Trump guides his own way. I don't think he's that smart. Rather, I think he is forever beholding to his benefactors and responds to their puppet strings.


earthytaurus3 replies on 8/9/2019 2:45 pm:
Like the NRA, for example.

earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/9/2019 2:25 pm

    Quoting bob77O21__:
    McConnell can't invoke an executive order.
Nope ... but where's the executive order?


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/9/2019 2:43 pm

Trump has the senate in his pocket via Mitch McConnell who refuses to deal with bills on the table. He wields a LOT of power.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
3133 posts
8/9/2019 4:28 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    You mean the ban that had no measurable impact on the number of shootings or the number of shooting deaths while it was in effect. Surely you have your definition.
Plagiarized from 'bootsandsabers.com.'


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/9/2019 5:06 pm

Surprise, surprise.


MrsJoe 72F
11134 posts
8/9/2019 6:08 pm

    Quoting  :

If that old adage about turning over in their grave is correct, I imagine the founding fathers are spinning in theirs!

If you don't expect anything from anybody......You won't be disappointed.


bob77O21__ 76M
8399 posts
8/9/2019 11:36 pm

Are you that naive? Trump has issued many executive orders and enacted actions that McConnell could not have done...because....HE DOESN'T WIELD THE POWER THAT TRUMP DOES.


Lisztomania 69M
10475 posts
8/10/2019 12:37 am


This is a no-brainer.

McConnell is not the commander-in-chief of our vast military
He has no role in foreign policy.
He cannot appoint judges to the federal judiciary.
He cannot veto legislation duly enacted by Congress.
He cannot issue executive orders.

These are immense powers. Better review your civics.


LeafReport 68M
1913 posts
8/10/2019 1:49 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    You mean the ban that had no measurable impact on the number of shootings or the number of shooting deaths while it was in effect. Surely you have your definition.
Well if it isn't the Grand Wizard of Stink here spreading yet another lie. Is there any assault you do not support...assault weapons, assault on democracy, assault on health care, assault on the FBI, assault on immigrants.

So...Bigger Trigger...what is it that you actually feel when you "squeeze to please"?


LeafReport 68M
1913 posts
8/10/2019 2:10 am

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    I can't choose. They're both a disgrace to our country. And Barr is running as fast as a fat man can, trying to catch up with them.
Great point here...Barr is a HUGE problem.


LeafReport 68M
1913 posts
8/10/2019 2:12 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    I have no idea, but I feel compelled to ask just what do you consider an assault rifle? I personally have no desire to have an AR-15 or an AK-47. If I were a whole lot younger I would like to have a Henry Repeating Rifle. My hunting days are over and it would be a waste of both money and space.
The answer to Earthy's question, which you ignored and I'm suspicious why you have ignored it....is that they think about KILLING PEOPLE.


LeafReport 68M
1913 posts
8/10/2019 2:36 am

This is a unique time in American history and I would argue the answer here is Moscow Mitch McConnell. It is Trump who makes it particularly unique but any time you have a president who loses the popular vote chaos comes with it. America cannot continue to function with outcomes like this. Gerrymandering has finally reached the point where it may have permanently destroyed the country and it doesn't appear the Supreme Court will save us. But you can look it up but McConnell's abuse of the filibuster during his tenure has been historic by a mile when compared to all other political leaders. He has set the country back in so many ways by refusing to allow votes on matters of overwhelming public support. The Hastert rule in the House has also been damaging. It was McConnell who acted to prevent Obama to more aggressively act upon Russia's interference in the 2016 election. Why? His refusal to even meet with Obama's nomination for the Supreme Court was flat out subversive in my view. He's acted several times to shut down the government costing tax payers billions of dollars and each time his acts put strain on the nation and increased risks to citizens. He has acted over 50 times to try and dismantle health care protections to millions of people. He set the stage for Trump's assault on our freedom and he alone is acting to thwart an impeachment proceeding that is now more appropriate than perhaps any other time in our history. Moscow Mitch McConnell by refusing to even allow votes has made it impossible to guarantee the protection of citizens, to safeguard our institutions, to exercise sound foreign policy oversight and he is enabling abuse of power at the executive level by not acting to prevent it. Senate votes have the potential to eliminate all of those threats to our way of life. Moscow Mitch McConnell has handed the keys to the country, once held by 100 senators, to a fascist....and we are paying an enormous price for that. This is not to say that McConnell doesn't have limits to his power, but by refusing to support votes in the first place he removes capacity of the senate to even override presidential vetoes. That directly harms us all. We've lost our democracy frankly...21st century fascism is here. It will take a lot to extinguish it.


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/10/2019 3:21 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    This is a unique time in American history and I would argue the answer here is Moscow Mitch McConnell. It is Trump who makes it particularly unique but any time you have a president who loses the popular vote chaos comes with it. America cannot continue to function with outcomes like this. Gerrymandering has finally reached the point where it may have permanently destroyed the country and it doesn't appear the Supreme Court will save us. But you can look it up but McConnell's abuse of the filibuster during his tenure has been historic by a mile when compared to all other political leaders. He has set the country back in so many ways by refusing to allow votes on matters of overwhelming public support. The Hastert rule in the House has also been damaging. It was McConnell who acted to prevent Obama to more aggressively act upon Russia's interference in the 2016 election. Why? His refusal to even meet with Obama's nomination for the Supreme Court was flat out subversive in my view. He's acted several times to shut down the government costing tax payers billions of dollars and each time his acts put strain on the nation and increased risks to citizens. He has acted over 50 times to try and dismantle health care protections to millions of people. He set the stage for Trump's assault on our freedom and he alone is acting to thwart an impeachment proceeding that is now more appropriate than perhaps any other time in our history. Moscow Mitch McConnell by refusing to even allow votes has made it impossible to guarantee the protection of citizens, to safeguard our institutions, to exercise sound foreign policy oversight and he is enabling abuse of power at the executive level by not acting to prevent it. Senate votes have the potential to eliminate all of those threats to our way of life. Moscow Mitch McConnell has handed the keys to the country, once held by 100 senators, to a fascist....and we are paying an enormous price for that. This is not to say that McConnell doesn't have limits to his power, but by refusing to support votes in the first place he removes capacity of the senate to even override presidential vetoes. That directly harms us all. We've lost our democracy frankly...21st century fascism is here. It will take a lot to extinguish it.
Thanks for your insights, Leaf. Dead on.


earthytaurus3 replies on 8/10/2019 3:47 am:
How can it be that the right wing is liking the way things are run??? How can it possibly be?

earthytaurus3 replies on 8/10/2019 3:59 am:
Thanks for filling in the blanks with a cogent response.

earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/10/2019 3:23 am

    Quoting  :

He's the ultimate obstructionist, in my view.


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/10/2019 3:55 am

    Quoting Lisztomania:

    This is a no-brainer.

    McConnell is not the commander-in-chief of our vast military
    He has no role in foreign policy.
    He cannot appoint judges to the federal judiciary.
    He cannot veto legislation duly enacted by Congress.
    He cannot issue executive orders.

    These are immense powers. Better review your civics.
HA! Review my civics??? We're waaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond civics, my friend.


sparkleflit 71F
4922 posts
8/10/2019 9:48 am

Trump just overruled EPA scientists and signed over permission to put a huge open-pit t mine in a pristine water-shed that is the most important Pacific Salmon spawning ground in the world..........This is possible because of Trump's method of placing only "acting" heads of government departments. Trump is deconstructing protection agencies......one after the other ......It's deliberate and insidious........and most Americans have no idea because they are focused on the tweets and the yelling sessions.......

Trump's power is based in dishonesty and lack of a moral compass........he is destroying America and people like the dimwits on this site who are comparing red hats and hypotheticals while Trump dismantles their country.......that's Trump's power......insidious and maniacal.......


bob77O21__ 76M
8399 posts
8/10/2019 9:50 am

My my my my...that leafy can sure prattle on...


earthytaurus3 79F
39955 posts
8/10/2019 10:07 am

    Quoting bob77O21__:
    My my my my...that leafy can sure prattle on...
At least he offers substance. More than I can say for you.


earthytaurus3 replies on 8/11/2019 2:12 am:
The only reason you enter my blog is to nit pick grammatical errors and/or attack your adversaries. GET OVER IT!!! Your ego about equals Trump's.

CarolinaPanthera 57F
3133 posts
8/11/2019 11:27 am

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    At least he offers substance. More than I can say for you.
'Small' men overcompensate with 'big' ego's. OLD Blob is just as disgusting as Trump.