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sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
1/8/2019 10:53 am

I'ts not "overstated for political purposes"........they are outright lies........over and over, Trump and his acolytes spewing lies.........They are being fact-checked in real time.......they know what they are doing.....it's deliberate and consequential.........I don't understand why you and others insist on using euphemisms and not facing the fact that your president lies shamelessly and constantly and doesn't care about the consequences......or is completely unaware and there are those around him who are whores to power that kiss his ass...........


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
1/8/2019 11:46 am

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I'm fed up to the teeth with all the bowing and scraping.......the insanity of Trump taking over everything......The only way to escape the Trump madness is to completely cut off from the world........For God's sake get out on the street and riot......get rid of him.....He's a monster.....


dusty117 73M

1/8/2019 12:33 pm

Border security helps a little bit in the short term .. then it's a matter of time until people discover how to go over, under around and through it. So it's useless, the cost is stupid, Trump is stupid.

Prosecute employers of illegals FIRST … there might be some bang for the buck there. But wait, that won't work. Trump sells hate and fear.


starwomyn 70F
8872 posts
1/8/2019 12:55 pm

Crisis or otherwise, It's long overdue. The wall may not be a cure all but it will make border security work better

Abracadabra


kneedtwoplease 68M
1189 posts
1/8/2019 3:01 pm

what Star said, I agree

It shouldn't be an emergency, but an obvious plan.
WalI may not be necessary, but laws are not being enforced. As usual

Those who oppose the wall are the ones using the immigration problem as political agenda leverage.

I didn't vote in your poll because I see a bigger issue than the simple point you are trying to make. Fix the leak now, its getting worse


LeafReport 73M

1/8/2019 5:01 pm

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LeafReport 73M

1/8/2019 5:05 pm

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Hi Bob...you were BALD yesterday, the day before yesterday, the day before that, the week before that, a year before that. But tomorrow will be different Bob. It won't be BALD Tuesday.......Guess what Dayyyyyyyyyy it is Bob? It's BALD Hump Day Bob....and the Pigeon is waiting.


LeafReport 73M

1/8/2019 5:06 pm

Hey Earthy...I'll find out tomorrow. Can't miss Oak Island tonight.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/9/2019 9:11 am

So what is the greatest deterrent to "illegal immigration"
1... build a wall
2... Have Trump as our President??????

My answer... Whether it's illegal or legal immigration the greatest deterrent to immigration in this country is Donald Trump..
Who needs a border wall.....when our Presidents walls everyone out..


TxJW4 81M

1/10/2019 3:28 am

We do need a wall but a government shutdown is not the way to do it.
Never punish the people you are elected to protect.
Both sides are at fault on the shut down

I know about fences from experience-----Saying they are ineffective is a demonstration of stupidity regardless of who says it.
Party On!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/10/2019 3:56 pm

    Quoting TxJW4:
    We do need a wall but a government shutdown is not the way to do it.
    Never punish the people you are elected to protect.
    Both sides are at fault on the shut down

    I know about fences from experience-----Saying they are ineffective is a demonstration of stupidity regardless of who says it.
    Party On!
Well you fall in to the Trump narrative..

"Saying they are ineffective is a demonstration of stupidity regardless of who says it."

The irony of this statement. Which "the who" directly is not correct... but the who indirectly is...

Confusing?

Saying fences are ineffective because someone says they are not sufficiently effective.
Is the stupidity

Saying Border Security includes A Wall.. is not the same as saying A WALL is Border Security

One can think a mouse is small elephant..But nobody should think an elephant is a big mouse.....The wall can be a mouse.... but border security is the elephant in the room.
Party On! LOL


TxJW4 81M

1/10/2019 5:56 pm

OK Jiminy I am still hung up back there when Hank said his God is (OUR) God.
Assumptions like that make me angry. But then the source must be considered. LOL
Party On!


TxJW4 81M

1/10/2019 6:00 pm

Placing ones own religious bullshit on someone else is totally asinine.


TxJW4 81M

1/11/2019 2:23 pm

A wall (fence) is a one time expense. It can be useful for 20 or 30 years with only a little maintenance. Thus you divide the cost to build by the number of years used.
That makes it very affordable. Business 101. LOL
The cost of labor (guards) to man an open border is unimaginable!
WHAT??? One guard for every 120 feet of border????
Plus calculate the labor intensive cost of how many guards (EVERY YEAR) for the next 20 0r 30 years and into the hereafter. Business 101
Fence is a no brainer.
That is why we have fences in Texas rather than stay out there day & night herding the cows. LOL
Tunnels can be detected and destroyed easily with little cost. Flood with water or apply the old stick of dynamite theory.
We Texans often apply a small electrical charge to a fence to keep the encroachers honest. LOL
Party On


izwatitis 65M

1/27/2019 2:30 am

if your against this wall, you might want to research what Mark Morgan said on what walls do. He was the last presidents Border Security Chief.

also, go to cis.org for the cost on ILLEGAL immigrants.

enforce title 8 code 1324.


TxJW5 81M

2/16/2019 2:10 am

I plan to sneak into Mexico join a caravan and sneak back into Texas so I can get free healthcare and groceries before those dummies build a wall. LOL
Party On!


jajo4414 68F
29 posts
2/24/2019 11:53 am

Lets be clear here....he is only talking of trying to close off one border. Border security should mean ALL borders....and his plan does not. Anyone see the larger picture here?? Hmmmm

I voted


Ustacould_1959 64M

3/2/2019 9:14 am

Next we will need a stronger wall to keep the Canadians out as well.The Dems want low t o no skilled workers to lower wages here not to mentions the millions of extra vehicles on the roads that are over crowded now...Send them all back. Let Mexico have southern California and call that even.


GentlemanRSM 71M

3/15/2019 9:43 am

The "WALL" is a campaign promise "Emergency" and not a National Emergency as he has declared. Promises Made, Promises Kept. “Mexico Will Pay for the Wall” “What promises that was fake news I didn’t say anything of the kind”. But, Mr. President we have video of you making that statement. “That was the Democrats and the Dark Media”. That was Trump’s statement regarding his wall and wanting 8.6 billon in tax payer’s money for HIS WALL. “The only National Emergency is that our President is an Idiot” 15 Feb 2019 Ann Coulter - Ghost POTUS who makes up Trump’s Trinity of Conservatives i.e. Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity.