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Darter50516 67M
5669 posts
1/13/2023 6:21 pm
A Mystery



Yes I am a Cinderfella; One of the tasks I perform is to clean the ashes from our fireplace.



Today in the ashes remained this iron object. 3.75" across with an inner diameter of 3.25"



The piece is 1.665" across with one lip flat; the other rounded.



This is the type of split wood we are currently burning in the fireplace. Luckily we didn't hit it with the chain saw when cutting it


Darter50516 67M
3857 posts
1/13/2023 6:30 pm

Just got home from dinner in town.... ALL YOU CAN EAT FISH FRY.... They loose money when I walk in the door. All JD and I can surmise on the iron piece is an inner spindle to an old farm wagon that fell into the dirt and grew up into the tree. The tree dies and we cut it for firewood. A one of a kind piece of old Iowa farm life. JD's family moved to Iowa in 1866 or 1867 after the War Between the States. So think Antebellum Texas.


Hungr4Yungr 75M
803 posts
1/13/2023 6:57 pm

A very interesting artifact, Darter. It is certainly something I don't recognize. I like the possibility of what you and JD have surmised. It does appear to be from that era, and could easily have had the tree grow around it. There may have been a wagon wheel lying on the ground or leaning against the tree, and the tree engulfed it as it grew.


Hungr4Yungr 75M
803 posts
1/13/2023 6:58 pm

It was a nice 56F here today, partly cloudy, SW wind 20 mph. More of the same on Saturday. I am going in the other room to look at my TV set.


Darter50516 67M
3857 posts
1/13/2023 7:14 pm

    Quoting Hungr4Yungr:
    A very interesting artifact, Darter. It is certainly something I don't recognize. I like the possibility of what you and JD have surmised. It does appear to be from that era, and could easily have had the tree grow around it. There may have been a wagon wheel lying on the ground or leaning against the tree, and the tree engulfed it as it grew.
That's about all we can figure Roger.... Worn very smooth and thin.


Darter50516 67M
3857 posts
1/13/2023 7:15 pm

    Quoting Hungr4Yungr:
    It was a nice 56F here today, partly cloudy, SW wind 20 mph. More of the same on Saturday. I am going in the other room to look at my TV set.
Cold and windy I think the car said 20 F... JD drove.


Steamboy_2472 64M
410 posts
1/13/2023 7:19 pm

    Quoting Darter50516:
    Just got home from dinner in town.... ALL YOU CAN EAT FISH FRY.... They loose money when I walk in the door. All JD and I can surmise on the iron piece is an inner spindle to an old farm wagon that fell into the dirt and grew up into the tree. The tree dies and we cut it for firewood. A one of a kind piece of old Iowa farm life. JD's family moved to Iowa in 1866 or 1867 after the War Between the States. So think Antebellum Texas.
To quote a famous sergeant. Very interesting 😂😂


Darter50516 67M
3857 posts
1/13/2023 7:38 pm

    Quoting Steamboy_2472:
    To quote a famous sergeant. Very interesting 😂😂
I know that Guy!... He might know what it is.


StarCandy1 69F
1821 posts
1/13/2023 8:16 pm

That looks like Scarlett O'Hara


Darter50516 67M
3857 posts
1/13/2023 8:22 pm

    Quoting StarCandy1:
    That looks like Scarlett O'Hara
Mmmmm I'd be the perfect Scarlett ! "As God is my witness..."


Rocketship 80F
18584 posts
1/14/2023 6:37 am

Who knows what lurks.......... interesting!!

Yes, it sure would have done a number on the chain saw!!


TxJW036 81M

1/14/2023 8:20 am

Darter the pictures look similar to spacers used today as insulators around heated vent pipes go through the roof or the second floor of a house. LOL

I would inspect where the chimney pipe goes up through a second floor or the roof.

Although the diameters seem to be a little small for stove pipe. But one never knows how things were constructed in the past.

It might have been a collar fastening two stove pipes together inside a wall.

If you recently cleaned the chimney ----be careful or you may burn the house down. LOL


TxJW036 81M

1/14/2023 8:31 am

The two flanges on that one pipe would fit in the floor and serve as a spacer against the heat from an inner pipe.

But with all being said the pipe thing does seem too small for a fireplace.


Darter50516 67M
3857 posts
1/14/2023 10:57 am

    Quoting Rocketship:
    Who knows what lurks.......... interesting!!

    Yes, it sure would have done a number on the chain saw!!

It certainly surprised me !


Darter50516 67M
3857 posts
1/14/2023 11:00 am

    Quoting TxJW036:
    Darter the pictures look similar to spacers used today as insulators around heated vent pipes go through the roof or the second floor of a house. LOL

    I would inspect where the chimney pipe goes up through a second floor or the roof.

    Although the diameters seem to be a little small for stove pipe. But one never knows how things were constructed in the past.

    It might have been a collar fastening two stove pipes together inside a wall.

    If you recently cleaned the chimney ----be careful or you may burn the house down. LOL
There are no other stove pipes into the fireplace chimney. It is a solid brick construction covered with stone.


Darter50516 67M
3857 posts
1/14/2023 11:03 am

    Quoting TxJW036:
    The two flanges on that one pipe would fit in the floor and serve as a spacer against the heat from an inner pipe.

    But with all being said the pipe thing does seem too small for a fireplace.
The age of the wood we are burning just would not allow for such a modern application I'm afraid. The chunks of wood being burned are probably about 100 years old from out in a fence row.