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Sunshine217 79F
3152 posts
8/5/2011 7:26 am

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8/9/2011 1:59 pm

Are We So Undeserving?

Perhaps I'm a slow learner, but I've just learned the U.S. war funds pays for universal health care for Iran and Afghanistan as a means of winning them over.....while at the same time the Republicans work to dismantle our own universal health care. Yesterday, under Disingenuous Defined, I asked your take on the U.S. foreign aid subsidizing the socialized benefits of Israelis, while cutting domestic funding at home. I just don't understand our lack of outrage. What's your take?

Afghanistan*, Argentina, Austria, Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, Cuba, Costa Rica, Cyprus, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iraq*, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Oman, Portugal, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Sweden, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Ukraine and the United Kingdom

*Universal health coverage provided by United States war funding

There you go. Keep in mind: this is a simple list of countries that have some sort of publicly sponsored health care system. For instance, Sri Lanka may be far from having a true, working universal health care system like France, but prescription drugs are provided by a government-owned drug manufacturer. This qualifies as "some sort of publicly sponsored, universal health care system."


The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page: St. Augustine


Sunshine217 79F

8/5/2011 7:30 am

I finally figured out how to post pictures with the post. These are countries with universal health care (excluding the U.S.). The orange countries have universal health care paid for by U.S war funds.

The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page: St. Augustine


Sunshine217 79F

8/5/2011 8:25 am

OOPS! They minimized the map of the world's universal health care countries. Nothing ever seems consistent on here. Perhaps it's my membership status.

The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page: St. Augustine


B00Radley61 74M

8/5/2011 9:22 am

Look at a few things. Population size....tax burden to pay for such programs. The US manages to do the wrong thing with the bst of intentions.

Just because you have silenced a man does not mean you have changed his mind.


spiritwoman45

8/5/2011 9:44 am

I don't know about others but for me the lack of response to political issues is due to the fact that I feel overwhelmed and reeling from all of the political crap and the helpless, at the mercy of the self serving people we continue to be foolish enough to give power over us. I revert to the serenity prayer and this is one of those things I can't do anything about so I have to let it go and put my energies in places I can do something about.

Spiritwoman ^i^


Skipper_too 68G

8/5/2011 9:50 am

If you wish to add a photo or graphic to a post, you must add a tag to the text where you wish to insert the photo. The tag would be like this [image][/image]. If you want the photo centered you must add the tag center between the two image tags.

Hope that this helps.


bijou624

8/5/2011 10:34 am

Hi Sunshine: That the U.S. would pay for health care for the people of Iraqi and Afghanistan and not Americans is just terrible. I read about the huge amount of U.S. foreign aid going to those countries and just don't understand it. President Obama wanted universal health care for Americans, but people made him sound like a maniac for even suggesting it. We have government health insurance in Canada and so many other reasons to thank our lucky stars we were born here.


ltw222 75M
7793 posts
8/5/2011 11:00 am

Hi Sunshine,

I do not know you mean by a Universal Health Care System but in Malaysia, we do have a public health care system based on the British model. We only have to pay RM1 for consultation, tests, medicine, x-rays, etc. 1 RM is about US33cents.

Lee

Live today as if it is your last
For tomorrow will soon be in the past


Sunshine217 79F

8/5/2011 2:35 pm

    Quoting  :

Everyone, Bob has called my attention to a typo in this blog. I stated Iran in my first sentence when I intended Iraq and Afghanistan. Thank you for calling my attention to the typo Bob.

The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page: St. Augustine


Sunshine217 79F

8/5/2011 2:38 pm

Ane, Skipper, I'm not a paying member, so I do not think I am allowed anything except a thumbnail photo.

The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page: St. Augustine


1gasilverhead2 83M
4003 posts
8/5/2011 4:51 pm

So long as American's vote for incumbents they will get more of the same.

Also, remember those who receive handouts from our government will vote for the candidate who will give them the most while those Americans's who are paying taxes are too busy to vote.

You tell me who will go into office please?

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The beginning of life, conception..


friendly133 76M
5418 posts
8/5/2011 5:03 pm

I do believe all governments should provide free medicare for their own people first in preference to countries of other political interest.

But remember, you are the Sunshine; so is America to most of us in the Third World.

Have a wonderful day and the weekend.


"To fight the darkness do not draw your sword, light a candle" - Zarathustra


Skipper_too 68G

8/5/2011 5:37 pm

    Quoting Sunshine217:
    Ane, Skipper, I'm not a paying member, so I do not think I am allowed anything except a thumbnail photo.
Hi Sunshine, I am not a paying member either. I did misinform you earlier however. The tags should be enclosed with the square brackets [] and the first tag would be the word center followed by the word image and finally the tag /center. Each word would need to be enclosed by its own set of square brackets.

Hope that this helps


Skipper_too 68G

8/5/2011 5:42 pm

    Quoting 1gasilverhead2:
    So long as American's vote for incumbents they will get more of the same.

    Also, remember those who receive handouts from our government will vote for the candidate who will give them the most while those Americans's who are paying taxes are too busy to vote.

    You tell me who will go into office please?
Voting out incumbents on the basis that they will be replaced by someone better is a horribly flawed approach. Just look at the economic illiterate Tea Party members that we have in congress now. They don't even know that you do not cut spending in the midst of a recession.

They failed to grasp the actual problem and address spending when they should have spent their time camped on their butts addressing jobs and growth.

Just imagine how much more horrible this would have been if more of these fools had been elected. For myself, I want someone that has enough knowledge to have passed high school economics.


Sunshine217 79F

8/5/2011 9:24 pm

Skipper, Ane, MsEducator,

Thanks for the picture posting tips. I'll try again.

The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page: St. Augustine


Sunshine217 79F

8/5/2011 9:39 pm

    Quoting Skipper_too:
    Voting out incumbents on the basis that they will be replaced by someone better is a horribly flawed approach. Just look at the economic illiterate Tea Party members that we have in congress now. They don't even know that you do not cut spending in the midst of a recession.

    They failed to grasp the actual problem and address spending when they should have spent their time camped on their butts addressing jobs and growth.

    Just imagine how much more horrible this would have been if more of these fools had been elected. For myself, I want someone that has enough knowledge to have passed high school economics.
Well, they just published Gov. Rick Perry of texas college transcript today (he's considering running for president) and he made mostly c's and D's, even in his major subjects. They spoke to classmates who in essence said, This was no havard, and Rick Perry was considered a joke while in college.....so you are probably right.

If I master posting the pictures, I'll post the transcript.

The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page: St. Augustine


Sunshine217 79F

8/5/2011 9:45 pm

    Quoting friendly133:
    I do believe all governments should provide free medicare for their own people first in preference to countries of other political interest.

    But remember, you are the Sunshine; so is America to most of us in the Third World.

    Have a wonderful day and the weekend.

Charity should begin at home, but it does not seem it's gonna happen under the Tea party.

The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page: St. Augustine


Sunshine217 79F

8/5/2011 9:59 pm

    Quoting  :

It seems as if Republicans and The Tea party are on a mission to do as much destruction as possible. In 18 months they have partially shut down the FAA costing the govt. millions in tax revenue, caused a downgrading of America's credit rating, almost gutted the Universal Health Care Act. It's power gone bad.

The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page: St. Augustine


hobsonschoice 75F
3600 posts
8/7/2011 10:49 am

    Quoting Skipper_too:
    Voting out incumbents on the basis that they will be replaced by someone better is a horribly flawed approach. Just look at the economic illiterate Tea Party members that we have in congress now. They don't even know that you do not cut spending in the midst of a recession.

    They failed to grasp the actual problem and address spending when they should have spent their time camped on their butts addressing jobs and growth.

    Just imagine how much more horrible this would have been if more of these fools had been elected. For myself, I want someone that has enough knowledge to have passed high school economics.
I so agree! I have to wonder about anyone who would sign a pledge to never raise taxes too.