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widower74 72M
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9/19/2021 1:58 am
Anti-Vaxxers Hype Benign Transmission Numbers as Proof Vax Doesn’t Work


Well, it proves the virus is still spreading even after more than half the country is vaccinated!

So?

Israel’s almost fully vaccinated, and look at all their CASES!

So?

Who gives a fuck about any of that?

“Cases” is a meaningless number, and now we have ATVers joining the fascist left in hyping that meaningless number to push an agenda.

The left uses “cases” to justify locking us down and shoving us in those filthy masks.

The ATVers use “cases” to argue the vaccine doesn’t work.

I’m sorry, but “cases” are meaningless when it comes to this virus.


The only numbers I care about are HOSPITALIZATIONS and DEATHS. There is simply no question that America’s now dealing with a pandemic that is almost exclusively killing and hospitalizing the unvaccinated.

The “cases” talking point is so absurd it’s why I question the authenticity of those making it. Could it be that the left has created thousands upon thousands of sock puppet accounts so that every time someone like myself suggests a Trump supporter gets a life-saving vaccine, a flurry of sock puppets jump in to muddy the waters?

Gee, you think maybe the same organized left that drones seven , unleashes Black Lives Matter and Antifa into our cities, and seeds the country with thousands and thousands of unvaccinated illegal aliens during a pandemic might be capable of doing something like that?

Last week, just last week, the CDC reported that 4,652 Americans died of the coronavirus. That’s a single week.


Since the vaccine came out months and months, and months ago, according to the CDC, 178 million people have been vaccinated, and only 3,040 have died of the coronavirus, and only 12,750 have been hospitalized for the coronavirus.

What more do you need to know than that?

As a colleague of mine said, Why are you willing to take a risk with a virus made in China but not a vaccine made in America at the direction of President Trump?

I’m vaccinated. My wife is vaccinated. The chances the unvaccinated can harm is so remote I’m not concerned about it. So I’m not telling or badgering anyone to go out and get vaccinated. That’s your choice. But I am telling you to find a better argument.

Civitates meridienses iterum orientur," "The southern states will rise again."


widower74 72M

9/19/2021 1:59 am



Civitates meridienses iterum orientur," "The southern states will rise again."


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/19/2021 8:03 am

I not sure how you read it..but there is a lot to agree to..

Stopping the spread is an interesting concept..
it can be seen as a advantage or a disadvantage.. but its need to de dealt with.. either way.

mask and vaccines, are not a cure....we haven't found a cure yet..And given our current Circumstance we NEVER will...sometimes it seems useless to fight a losing battle.. I'm talking about the hand to hand combat..I'm talking humanity versus the Universe.. Humanity loses..

Stopping the spread, mitigating the damages, and hoping for solutions that aren't going to come.

this virus should be a wake-up call for a planet and humanity in distress..
It perfectly fits in with the concepts of climate change and overpopulation..

Of course, we convince ourselves otherwise.. WE can ignore it. we can take advantage of it, We can believe it's a conspiracy or a hoax, We can believe we can overcome it..We can believe in a higher power that will save US......that is the true hoax, conspiracy and manipulation..
We have existed simply because we having been willing to stop the spread. to mitigate the damages...when the ultimate passing of our life is assured. It's simply a "Day in a life"..


Archer62 83F
7099 posts
9/19/2021 8:21 am

HANK,
OVER HERE THE SITUATION IS PRETTY MUCH UNDER CONTROL MAINLY THANKS TO MASSIVE RECENT VACCINATIONS AND THE MOST DISPUTED AND VERY MUCH UNLOVED SANITARY PASS. THERE ARE STILL CASES, THERE ARE STILL DEATHS BUT THE HEALTH SYSTEM CAN HANDLE THEM NOW, WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE BEFORE.
ABOUT VACCINATION: PFIZER, MODERNA AND ASTRA ZENECA PROTECT FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS AFTER WHICH A BOOSTER IS RECOMMENDED. JOHNSON AND JOHNSON SEEMS NOT TO WORK AT ALL AGAINST THE DELTA MUTATION AND MANY OF THE VACCINATED PEOPLE WHO HAVE FALLEN ILL AND EVEN DIED HAD RECEIVED THAT VACCINE SO SAY THE EXPERTS.
RESULT: BEING VACCINATED HELPS FOR SIX MONTHS AND ALLOWS YOU TO GET OUT AND ABOUT BUT YOU STILL NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL. IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.


widower74 72M

9/19/2021 12:51 pm

    Quoting Archer62:
    HANK,
    OVER HERE THE SITUATION IS PRETTY MUCH UNDER CONTROL MAINLY THANKS TO MASSIVE RECENT VACCINATIONS AND THE MOST DISPUTED AND VERY MUCH UNLOVED SANITARY PASS. THERE ARE STILL CASES, THERE ARE STILL DEATHS BUT THE HEALTH SYSTEM CAN HANDLE THEM NOW, WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE BEFORE.
    ABOUT VACCINATION: PFIZER, MODERNA AND ASTRA ZENECA PROTECT FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS AFTER WHICH A BOOSTER IS RECOMMENDED. JOHNSON AND JOHNSON SEEMS NOT TO WORK AT ALL AGAINST THE DELTA MUTATION AND MANY OF THE VACCINATED PEOPLE WHO HAVE FALLEN ILL AND EVEN DIED HAD RECEIVED THAT VACCINE SO SAY THE EXPERTS.
    RESULT: BEING VACCINATED HELPS FOR SIX MONTHS AND ALLOWS YOU TO GET OUT AND ABOUT BUT YOU STILL NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL. IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.
MR ARCHER. I AM IN NO WAY TELLING ANYONE NOT TO TAKE THE VACCINE AS LNG AS THEY HAVE RESEARCHED ALL THE PLUSS N NEGATIVES.

FOLKS TAKING THE SHOTS BASED ON PRESSURE OR WHAT SOMEONE IN A OR ON SOCIAL MEDIA SAY IS PLAIN STUPID.

I POST ONLY WHAT I HAVE FOUND AND READ ABOUT THE VACCINES I HAVE LIVES WITH THE SYING WHERE THERE IS SMOKE THERE IS FIRE

MEANING IF THERE IS STATS TEHT SAY SHOOTS ARE NOT EFFECTIVE. EVEN FOR 6 MONTHS WHY TKE THEM

AGAIN. IT I EACH PERSON'S CHOICE TO MAE. ICHOSNTO AK ANYTHING OUT THERE NOW.

SHOULD A BETTER PROVEN REAL VACCINE BE DEVELOPED I WILL CONSIDER IT.

I OFTEN WONDER WHAT BUSINESSES OF ANYONE EVEN GOVTS TO DICTATED TO ANYONE WHAT TO DO.

SEETHE MESS IN AUSTRALIA NOW. TOTAL LOCKDOWN AND ARRESTING FOLSK IN THE STREET. ALSO ADVOCATING CITIZENS TURN IN FOLKS
NOT HAPPENING IN MY SIDE OF TEH WORLD OR MY NEIGHBORHOOD

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT I HOPE UR WEEK WILL BE BLESSED AND RESTFUL

Civitates meridienses iterum orientur," "The southern states will rise again."


Archer62 83F
7099 posts
9/19/2021 11:52 pm

HI HANK. THE NUMBER OF NEW CASES IS STEADILY DECREASING HERE AND IN SEVERAL OTHER COUNTRIES AFTER HAVING RISEN SHARPLY DURING THE EARLY SUMMER. WHAT SEEMS FAIRLY CLEAR IS THAT THOSE PERSONS FULLY VACCINATED FARE BETTER THAN THOSE NOT. BUT WE DO KNOW THE VACCINES LOSE CAPABILITIES AFTER A LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME. I WAS HOPING TO BE ABLE TO WAIT FOR THE SANOFI VACCINE, THEIRS ARE USUALLY VERY RELIABLE BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE. LET'S FACE IT, AT OUR AGE, TAKING THE RISK, WHAT THE HELL?