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shuel2002 65F
5102 posts
4/4/2015 9:11 pm
DENIED AND REPOSTED - BEAUTY PAGEANTS - WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THEM?


The censors at SFF denied this blog yesterday. They wrote:

Unfortunately, your blog post was denied due to :

* Photo of a minor is not allowed to use on our website

All I did was post some pictures on the internet, of some girls in their pageant poses. It's interesting that these pageants are legal (except in France, read below) but yet these pictures aren't allowed here. Anyhow, here was my post:

I will come right out and say, I DON'T like beauty pageants. Yes, winners make money they can use towards their education. That's a good thing. What isn't so good is, they are taught at an early age that looks are the most important thing. Even worse, I feel, is that they are made to look like adults. That sickens me.

I found out that France banned them:

"The French Senate voted to ban the pageants as a way to “protect girls from being sexualized too early.” under 16 aren't allowed to participate in such pageants and, if anyone is caught entering a , will face up to two years in prison along with a 30,000 euros fine. Many pageant organizers believe this ruling to be “severe” and are disappointed with the amendment."

What do you think of beauty pageants? What about beauty pageants in general? I think that pageants where beauty is only one part of what the winner needs to possess in order to win, is fine. Intelligence should play a part in determining the winner. I have to admit that I am not thrilled with how Miss Universe allows people to win who can't speak the universal language, English. When interpreters are involved, they might be more or less articulate than the contestant.

Elaine Shuel


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
4/4/2015 10:31 pm

I have always thought child beauty pageants were horrible, and I have a sister in law that was always pushing her daughter into them. Sometimes I think the mothers of these little girls have to be a tad bit twisted, or maybe it's because it was something they wanted to be, or it gives them something to brag about, who knows the reason.

I personally feel that kids are growing up too fast these days, they need to be out in the sunshine, play games and not be influenced by a glamorous world which will let them down in the future. I think it would be harder on the children who don't win, and think what it would do to a young lady's self esteem.


shuel2002 65F
5537 posts
4/4/2015 11:26 pm

    Quoting Nileyears:
    I have always thought child beauty pageants were horrible, and I have a sister in law that was always pushing her daughter into them. Sometimes I think the mothers of these little girls have to be a tad bit twisted, or maybe it's because it was something they wanted to be, or it gives them something to brag about, who knows the reason.

    I personally feel that kids are growing up too fast these days, they need to be out in the sunshine, play games and not be influenced by a glamorous world which will let them down in the future. I think it would be harder on the children who don't win, and think what it would do to a young lady's self esteem.
I agree with everything you said, Rae. If a little girl loses, I think it would hurt her feelings of self worth too. Thanks for your wise comment.

Elaine Shuel


Maudie1 74F
8151 posts
4/5/2015 2:07 am

I agree with everything Nileyears said.

Enjoy the rest of the Easter weekend Elaine


bijou624

4/5/2015 2:51 am

Hi Elaine: Our whole society seems obsessed with female beauty. Right from the time a woman is born she's judged by her looks.
I think all beauty contests are disgusting, parading females around a stage, but I wonder why we never see male beauty contests?.

Years ago the 'super model' Claudia Schiffer made a five minute appearance at the Eaton's Centre, and thousands of people swarmed in there to get a look at her. The next day there was an article in the paper that stated that she is paid something like $50,000.00 an hour just to have her photos taken or appear somewhere. No wonder women enter beauty contests to have a shot at that salary.


Hawkslayer 88M
13359 posts
4/5/2015 4:40 am

It is my personal belief that children are being rushed into adulthood much too soon nowadays. They should be allowed to grow up naturally and enjoy their childhood. It is the only one they will have to look back on in their senior years.

Alfie...


It only takes a drop of ink to make a million people think. There are many stories.


hermitinthecity 70M
1698 posts
4/5/2015 7:54 am

It's just a money making exercise and a pedophile smorgasboard. Hate them, stresses out a lot of kids as well, and for what?

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


Rocketship 80F
18611 posts
4/5/2015 9:04 am

I dislike the whole concept of beauty pageants whether for children, women, or men.

Friends and I were just remarking the other day that even little babies who used to be clothed in onesies until they started crawling, are now being dressed in little teen outfits.

I have no problem with, in any context, a person speaking their own language. English in not the most spoken language in the world, although through the trade dominance of English countries in the past, its usage is more prevalent, and it is mandatory for crews flying international flights.

It's amazing how well many speak multiple languages while first language English speakers make little effort to learn even the rudiments of other languages like French or Spanish.



shuel2002 65F
5537 posts
4/5/2015 10:20 am

    Quoting Maudie1:
    I agree with everything Nileyears said.

    Enjoy the rest of the Easter weekend Elaine
Thanks for your comment, Maura. Happy Easter!!!

Elaine Shuel


shuel2002 65F
5537 posts
4/5/2015 10:28 am

    Quoting bijou624:
    Hi Elaine: Our whole society seems obsessed with female beauty. Right from the time a woman is born she's judged by her looks.
    I think all beauty contests are disgusting, parading females around a stage, but I wonder why we never see male beauty contests?.

    Years ago the 'super model' Claudia Schiffer made a five minute appearance at the Eaton's Centre, and thousands of people swarmed in there to get a look at her. The next day there was an article in the paper that stated that she is paid something like $50,000.00 an hour just to have her photos taken or appear somewhere. No wonder women enter beauty contests to have a shot at that salary.
That's nothing compared to the obscene amount, I believe it was Marlon Brando, made for a 10 minute cameo in a movie. It was many MILLIONS. There is no doubt that many celebrities make a fortune just for showing up to events. They don't have to be a supermodel. I just read that Alex Trebek, Roseanne Barr, Joe Pesci and others make $100,000 - $150,000 per guest appearance, for example. Let's face it, actors and other celebrities, are grossly overpaid.

Thanks for your comment, bijou.

Elaine Shuel


shuel2002 65F
5537 posts
4/5/2015 10:30 am

    Quoting Hawkslayer:
    It is my personal belief that children are being rushed into adulthood much too soon nowadays. They should be allowed to grow up naturally and enjoy their childhood. It is the only one they will have to look back on in their senior years.

    Alfie...
I totally agree, Alfie. Thanks for your comment.

Elaine Shuel


shuel2002 65F
5537 posts
4/5/2015 10:39 am

    Quoting SpunkyLady61:
    I know people who put their children in these things. They are extremely expense.

    On the other hand my brothers niece is Shawntel Smith-- she was Miss America, 1996. She was raised in the tiny community of Muldrow, Oklahoma-- doing the pageant thing. She now lives happily with her billionaire husband with opportunities she would have never have afforded.

    As for my children-- I don't need to validate them by what they look like. I have one daughter who radiates her beauty from within.

    The other daughter-- I am told constantly how beautiful she is. I try to keep her grounded and I want her to know beauty is not seen by the eyes.
At least your brother's niece was an adult, when she was in the pageants. I don't know if Miss America earns points based on intelligence. I have no doubt it's good for the winner. It's the rest of the contestants, and what it signifies for women in general, is what I am wondering about. I think if the winner is judged on many factors including beauty, it's fine. Otherwise, it's saying to all those who watch, all you have to be is beautiful and you will succeed in life.

I would like to hear more about those people you know, that have put their children in child pageants.

Thanks for your comment, Suellen.

Elaine Shuel


shuel2002 65F
5537 posts
4/5/2015 10:41 am

    Quoting hermitinthecity:
    It's just a money making exercise and a pedophile smorgasboard. Hate them, stresses out a lot of kids as well, and for what?
Thanks for your comment, hermitinthecity. I'm not sure that making money is the reason their parents put them in these pageants. I'd be curious to know if that's the case.

Elaine Shuel


shuel2002 65F
5537 posts
4/5/2015 10:47 am

    Quoting Rocketship:
    I dislike the whole concept of beauty pageants whether for children, women, or men.

    Friends and I were just remarking the other day that even little babies who used to be clothed in onesies until they started crawling, are now being dressed in little teen outfits.

    I have no problem with, in any context, a person speaking their own language. English in not the most spoken language in the world, although through the trade dominance of English countries in the past, its usage is more prevalent, and it is mandatory for crews flying international flights.

    It's amazing how well many speak multiple languages while first language English speakers make little effort to learn even the rudiments of other languages like French or Spanish.



You have to remember, Rocket, that Miss Universe is an English speaking production. That's just a fact. When someone answers those interview questions in another language, the judges are judging their responses. What happens if the contestant isn't giving a very articulate answer but the interpreter makes it sound better? The points for the interview reflects the interpreter rather the contestant. Of course, the reverse could be true and the interpreter can be less articulate.

When someone doesn't speak perfect English but makes the effort to give an answer without an interpreter, I'm impressed. Even if her English isn't perfect, she'd get points just for the effort, in my opinion.

Thanks for your comment, Rocket.

Elaine Shuel


shuel2002 65F
5537 posts
4/5/2015 1:46 pm

    Quoting  :

You can continue anytime you like, Pat. You're totally right. The whole thing makes me sick frankly. Thanks for your great comment.

Elaine Shuel


shuel2002 65F
5537 posts
4/5/2015 1:49 pm

    Quoting  :

I had pictures posted including JonBenet Ramsey. They made me remove the photos. Terrible tragedy what happened to her!!!

I speak a bit of French only. I did well in French in school but that was it. That's why I left Quebec, where I was born and raised.

Elaine Shuel


shuel2002 65F
5537 posts
4/5/2015 10:39 pm

    Quoting  :

I have to admit, I never thought about them in those terms. I just thought it's very wrong to parade one's children, after having them dress up like women. Thanks for your comment, RosesLady.

Elaine Shuel