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jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
6/23/2017 9:51 am

In principles , I totally agree, if principles went both ways.

College students should just stay away, absence says a lot.

The reasoning behind why, liberals do what they do, is more about fear than it is about shouting down opposition, so in that I disagree.

The question is... are we really that much different than the German people of the 1930's

When bombarded with internet terrorism, tweets that should actually make no sense. religious fanaticism born from the pulpits, secret societies, and a successful Right Wing propaganda machine. What faith can we have in other Americans, to do the right thing.
Yes Liberals have little faith, History has told them, and a changing America is telling them now.
So they see little choice, but to fight fire with fire.
I agree with you, and I think they are wrong. but then again, I don't fear, and I have faith.


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
6/23/2017 2:09 pm

I remember one year when the Klu Klux Klan decided to have a rally in Greenbrier County, West Virginia. Other folks decided to have a counter rally on the other side of the river in Monroe County. This is a far more productive way to deal with disagreeable personalities versus hindering their Free Speech.

Abracadabra


Nileyears 71F
4206 posts
6/23/2017 5:05 pm

The best offense is to offend everybody, that way no one feels left out.

Our laws on freedom of speech are going to stifle all of us into silence. What's next? The threat of having our tongues cut out if we utter, or are accused of saying a word that hurts someone's feelings?

People need to know how to handle what offends them, running and hiding does not make a strong person. Even my granddaughter comes back with a little sarcasm if someone tries to offend her, she doesn't run away from an offensive person, she stands up for herself.

I see the looters and rioters out there getting away with hurting others and destroying private and public property, and the Supreme Court is worried that the name of this band is offensive? Oh, please, give me a break!!


Nileyears 71F
4206 posts
6/23/2017 7:02 pm

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Thanks for setting me straight, so they don't worry, but they are going to stifle every little thing out there by this ruling. I was looking more at a broader picture and possible end results.

Why not take it to the Supreme Court that their rulings are offensive, wonder how that would turn out?


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
6/24/2017 6:56 am

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t appears you have pretty understanding when it come to the Supreme Court. It's easy for you when it fits... not so easy when it doesn't fit.

Let's take Roe vs Wade for example.

"The Court ruled 7–2 that a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion, but that this right must be balanced against the state's interests in regulating abortions: protecting women's health and protecting the potentiality of human life"...... "disallowing many state and federal restrictions on abortion in the United States"

this court decision has really nothing to do, with pro or anti abortion. overturning this ruling does virtually nothing. but allows States to make laws against the rights of women opposing to the rights of an unborn child.

It can NEVER be fully overturned. only modified.

At this point the court has ruled that states and Federal government cannot make laws, that takes away the rights of women to due process.

The idea of abortion is not the issue.
Any modification of this ruling, would then have to specifically deal with the restrictions of both State and Federal laws. Each restriction would separately have to be dealt with as to it's legality of women rights and their due process vs the rights of the unborn child.

This has always been really simple for me.
If a citizen of this country believes that a women has a right to an abortion, for any specific reason, examples, would be r*pe, or their own health.
Then this ruling conforms to that.

The fact there is abortion abuses, does not change that.
The fact is... There are so many laws abuses in this country, it's almost unfathomable. Yet in those cases, although many on both sides, try to shut down the law because of it. It's not a reason.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
6/24/2017 7:31 am

The simple fact of this country and it's problems.

Is that we are a country, that has a design on it, to abuse it's laws.

Figuring out legal ways, or not so legal ways you can get away with, to circumvent the law. That's what we do.

Many would say.. You're stupid, if you don't do it.
Obviously many of us are stupid and that number is dwindling.


Nileyears 71F
4206 posts
6/24/2017 2:10 pm

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Well double darn it, I did it again! I have a way of skimming through things that I don't have much interest in, so okay, it's in favor of. Now maybe you ask, why does a person have no interest in this ruling by the supreme court, then again, maybe you don't, either way, doesn't matter. Believe me, I am all in favor of freedom of speech, I just find it ridiculous that as a so called free country we have to let a court decide what is free and what isn't.