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MrsJoe 76F
17308 posts
6/10/2017 7:06 am

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And that is just the beginning......... actually, it has been building up for decades........ but we will be seeing things like this more and more, not only in Canada, but also here. Gender identity? How about any other excuse they can come up with?
We fought that same battle with the government about parental rights over home schooling in the USA and won. If Canada sets this stage, how far behind will the USA be?
Tolerance? Nope. Liberals want only conformity to their ideas.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
6/10/2017 8:46 am

Gag all you like maisie...you do anyway...but pardon me while I laugh at this feeble attempt to bait Canadians !
And MrsJoe... she is one of the biggest evangelicals in SFF.
Hypocrites!
The United States has the largest concentration of Evangelicals in the world; its community forms a quarter of the population, is politically important and based mostly in the Bible Belt.
By the late 19th to early 20th century, most American Protestants were Evangelicals. A divide had arisen between the more liberal-modernist mainline denominations and the fundamentalist denominations, the latter typically consisting of Evangelicals.
During and after World War II, Evangelicals became increasingly organized. There was a great expansion of Evangelical activity within the United States, "a revival of revivalism." Youth for Christ was formed; it later became the base for Billy Graham's revivals. The National Association of Evangelicals formed in 1942 as a counterpoise to the mainline Federal Council of Churches. In 1942–43, the Old-Fashioned Revival Hour had a record-setting national radio audience.

According to a Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life study, Evangelicals can be broadly divided into three camps: traditionalist, centrist, and modernist.[125] A 2004 Pew survey identified Evangelicals as 26.3 percent of the population, while Catholics make up 22 percent and mainline Protestants make up 16 percent.

Evangelicals have been socially active throughout US history, a tradition dating back to the abolitionist movement of the Antebellum period and the prohibition movement.[127] As a group, evangelicals are most often associated with the Christian right. However, a large number of black self-labeled Evangelicals, and a small proportion of liberal white self-labeled Evangelicals, gravitate towards the Christian left.
Recurrent themes within American Evangelical discourse include abortion,[130] the creation–evolution controversy, secularism, and the notion of the United States as a Christian nation

Canada is 8 to 10% Christian Evangelical...the USA is more than 25% Evangelical.


bijou624

6/10/2017 8:47 am

Maisie you are such a good writer and your sense of humour is so funny. I'm so proud to be a Canadian and think Canada is a great example for other countries. Our laws, our human rights, our welcoming immigration policy, our free health care, etc etc Every day I'm amazed at how Canada takes care of its citizens. No-one is suggesting that we want every pregnant woman around the world to rush out and get an abortion, but we do think they should have the right to and access to one if that's what they want.


dinty3 80M
3364 posts
6/10/2017 8:48 am

Ms Freeland is not very good at anything she does, even flopped at Minister of International Trade. As a journalist she was kicked out of Russia.
You forgot to mention the Canadian Government is giving $150,000,000 to 30 primarily Muslim countries as part of the "first feminist international assistant policy"


MrsJoe 76F
17308 posts
6/10/2017 9:07 am

Isn't it amazing that the first liberal counter point is usually a personal attack, not a discussion of the issue? And the second counter point is often a cut and paste of some figures they find to back their POV?

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


frenchsalsa2 77F
7809 posts
6/11/2017 2:40 pm

    Quoting dinty3:
    Ms Freeland is not very good at anything she does, even flopped at Minister of International Trade. As a journalist she was kicked out of Russia.
    You forgot to mention the Canadian Government is giving $150,000,000 to 30 primarily Muslim countries as part of the "first feminist international assistant policy"
Thank you Dinty for pointing that out... I totally agree. Ms Freeland is another smelly kettle of fish & flops all over the place. Our PM is so liberal at helping 3rd world countries with their problems while we should be helping those women in Canada who need the help desperately.

Bijou mentioned 'free health care', but she failed to mention that we are giving additional 'free' health care outside of our general provincial health insurance to refugees entering Canada, while he rest of us pay the premiums each year!! Are we ticked off? You bet we are!!!


frenchsalsa2 77F
7809 posts
6/11/2017 2:43 pm

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Excellent comments & blog... thank you!! Too many Canadian Liberals plus Liberals from outside our own country, tend to make comments based on their readings of Liberal propaganda!! How naive is that? I am a very proud Canadian and especially proud of my heritage... my parents and ancestors came to this country and worked hard to make a wonderful life for us, yet they demanded and got nothing from the government!!


frenchsalsa2 77F
7809 posts
6/11/2017 9:44 pm

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Yes, Big Block, we all pay premiums... the refugees never do! However, down the road if and when they do find work, they will also be paying premiums. Those premiums are reflected on our annual taxes.

Maisie is correct with her statements. No, it is not FREE! When I said additional health care (which Maggie failed to mention about the refugees 'one year status', is those refugees are given FREE dental, vision etc that the rest of us have to pay for (no premiums there) unless one is currently working for a company who pays those benefits, of which a portion is paid by the employee. In my case, due to my late hubby's military benefits, I do get some reprieve (thankfully).. Meanwhile, we have Canadians who desperately need those 'additional' benefits as they may only be working 'contract' positions that would not allow them the luxury of company benefits. Too bad those Liberal Canadians have their vision clouded by this government!!


frenchsalsa2 77F
7809 posts
6/11/2017 9:57 pm

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Very true, Maisie. However, our premiums are not as high as many outsiders think, but nevertheless they are premiums deducted from our annual taxes. The best scenario I can give you is this: Firstly, each province has their own health care (monies transferred by our government of the day to each province) & we're not doing as well under this government, ie much of health care has been cut. Apparently a family of 4 with both parents working and earning approx $100K each per year, would contribute $750 + 6% of TI (annual income) over $200,000. Again, this varies per province. Since I am residing in Ontario, I quoted for this province. I know that this info (& more) can be found on "Canadian Tax Resource' (Provincial Health Premiums). I hope this helps clarify things for everyone!


bijou624

6/12/2017 3:47 am

In my whole life I have never paid a health insurance premium or co-payment for my Canadian health insurance, with the exception of $35. I paid one time for some unnecessary blood test that was not covered. I just did some research and found that there is some type of premium for some people in Ontario payable through your income tax but it just came into effect in 2004, years after I stopped working.


frenchsalsa2 77F
7809 posts
6/12/2017 9:46 am

    Quoting bijou624:
    In my whole life I have never paid a health insurance premium or co-payment for my Canadian health insurance, with the exception of $35. I paid one time for some unnecessary blood test that was not covered. I just did some research and found that there is some type of premium for some people in Ontario payable through your income tax but it just came into effect in 2004, years after I stopped working.
Bijou, those premiums were part of our annual income tax deductions. Many Canadians (which surprises me) are actually unaware of this. However, if one is not working, drawing EI, or earning $20K or less, then they do not pay premiums. And yes, there is a certain deduction with prescription drugs, each year!


frenchsalsa2 77F
7809 posts
6/12/2017 10:13 am

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Maisie, here's another one for you that I discovered in my past political notes from FB:
In 2016, Trudeau brought in 46,321 Syrian refugees and nine out of ten taxpayer-sponsored refugees are unemployed. Trudeau made numerous changes to our immigration policy, one of which was to eliminate the requirement that newcomers speak our language. The problem being that 83% of taxpayer-sponsored refugees are unemployed because they can't speak English or French (Canada’s 2 official languages). It's no small wonder that we now have Syrian refugees relying on, for example, food banks. In addition, many refugees have since been brought in who were NOT sponsored… but they were given an enormous amount of money in addition to free health care, going above & beyond what the average Canadian receives in health care!


bijou624

6/12/2017 10:53 am

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Yes of course all the billions paid to the hospitals and doctors each year is paid by tax revenues. The money is certainly not coming out of the politicians pockets. But so is the money used to pave the roads, pay the police, run the schools etc. Just to clear up one point you made, when I stopped working decades ago I was earning an excellent salary. This income tax payment of some amount towards health insurance just began in 2004, years after I stopped working, so it didn't come out of my salary, nor was I ever in my life charged one penny for a co-payment and was never asked to pay a premium for my health insurance. Why my $35. blood test wasn't covered.... $35. for a lifetime of free health care, who cares. Hope this clears up the matter.


frenchsalsa2 77F
7809 posts
6/12/2017 12:28 pm

    Quoting bijou624:
    Yes of course all the billions paid to the hospitals and doctors each year is paid by tax revenues. The money is certainly not coming out of the politicians pockets. But so is the money used to pave the roads, pay the police, run the schools etc. Just to clear up one point you made, when I stopped working decades ago I was earning an excellent salary. This income tax payment of some amount towards health insurance just began in 2004, years after I stopped working, so it didn't come out of my salary, nor was I ever in my life charged one penny for a co-payment and was never asked to pay a premium for my health insurance. Why my $35. blood test wasn't covered.... $35. for a lifetime of free health care, who cares. Hope this clears up the matter.
Bijou, correct, however: The Health (& CPP, Canada Pension) premium came into effect for the 2004 tax year. The premium was first deducted from employee payrolls and pension cheques on July 1, 2004.

In addition, seniors who receive pension income of more than $20,000 a year will have the premium deducted at source along with other taxes. Seniors who receive income from other sources that are not subject to tax withholdings may wish to request an increase in the amount of tax withheld from their pensions by designating an additional amount on form TD1.

Alternatively, seniors may choose to have income tax withheld from Old Age Security (OAS) and Canada Pension Plan (CPP) benefits by completing and sending form ISP3520 to Employment and Social Development Canada.

Hope this clarifies our health care for those questioning the system.